Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe
Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan
podcast by night all
day you do a podcast like every [ __ ]
day man pretty much this week every day
[ __ ] that but I was just on vacation how
was vacation nice little vacations are
hard you know because
like even though I enjoy rest I always
feel like I shouldn't be
always I get it you go on vacations no
never
no nope for me creatively it's good it's
good to get a reset cuz I come back in
guns blazing like I really I don't I
don't risk any mental burnout when I do
it well I have resets but my resets are
like um I call them Aid stations mental
Aid stations so when you're going
[ __ ] hard and you're grind all the
[ __ ] time like everybody knows you're
24 hours in the day but I'm in the
shower it's a mental aid station I don't
think about [ __ ] I don't [ __ ] think
about people I don't think about work I
don't think about running I don't think
about working out I'm in the car another
[ __ ] mental aid station when I'm
[ __ ] eating mental aid station so
people EA and they work and all sort
[ __ ] man so I I can grind hard because a
lot of times I'm in mental [ __ ] a
stations chilling so you have little
mini vacations mini vacations man all
day long all day long do you feel now
almost a
responsibility to like stay at it all
the time cuz so many people are watching
and paying attention and drawing
inspiration from you 100% I mean like I
probably would have retired a long time
ago but I get these emails from people
and it's like they're living through me
like their strength comes through what
they know I'm doing so there's so many
times I want to get up and say oh man
[ __ ] it I got mine I'm good and I'm like
[ __ ] [ __ ] Tommy out there
[ __ ] [ __ ] Tommy talking about
tomm in his email Tommy talking about
[ __ ] saved his life man I ran 10
miles last night because of you man I'm
like you know a lot of people can live
off of that and they can [ __ ] be good
with that and you know a lot of
motivational people come out here man
and run their [ __ ] mouths about
[ __ ] and I know they are not doing [ __ ]
they sit back and they're [ __ ] like
you know they have their little
brainstorming sessions about oh what
should we say
what's going what's going to connect
with people while they're sing their
[ __ ] ass my brainstorming sessions is
[ __ ] out there in the [ __ ] grip of
life [ __ ] grinding and that's where
the all my material comes from the suck
every bit of it comes from the
suck and that's the difference between
there's a there's like a whole industry
now that's dedicated to trying to help
people get motivated and a lot of the
people that are involved in that are
very unqualified 100% cuz they're not
really doing anything no there's so many
people that haven't actually done
anything but they'll try to teach you
how to get your life in order and how to
get your mind right and develop that
Warrior mentality i'm like [ __ ] you
don't have that well they're utilizing
the weakness of the world right now yeah
the world's in a very bad place so the
PE these these people who are like K
artists they sit back and say oh I can
come up with this I can come up with
this and this right here probably make
me some money yeah so they're in it for
for for [ __ ] up reasons this just not
a whole lot of people like you you you
know I love that phrase uncommon amongst
uncommon men cuz it's it's such a good
phrase because it just shows you you
you've been on this path for so long and
you're grinding for so long but you're
also honest about there's moments where
you don't want to [ __ ] do this oh
which is why it's so interesting because
you do it right you you do it without
any reservation you just go through it
right but you always talk about I don't
want to [ __ ] do this [ __ ] but you
always do it but that's what people need
to hear because they feel like that
somewhere out there there's some
superhuman person who never feels
Despair and doesn't have any there's
there's
no no hesitation so they feel like
there's this person that's so different
than them and so much stronger than them
and doesn't ever have any
procrastination and you're like that's
not me
no I love that phrase you told me once
he goes sometimes I look at my [ __ ]
shoes for half an hour AP put those
[ __ ]
on it's a true statement but but what I
do though man is I I came with this
thing called perform without purpose and
so many people they need to have a 5k a
10K I need to have a a a course in front
of me I need to have something in front
of me for me get my [ __ ] ass up and
do some [ __ ] and that used to be me and
nowadays you know [ __ ] for past 20 some
years I don't need [ __ ] purpose and
people miss out on this man the purpose
we're all looking for this golden
purpose is it this is it that is it
making money it is is it my family
[ __ ] the purpose is you we
forget that every [ __ ] day I wake up
and I don't want to do some [ __ ] [ __ ]
I'm like okay man do you want to be a
[ __ ] today do you want to feel like a
little [ __ ] do you want to walk around
all day knowing that you could but you
didn't so I I it's performed without
purpose you you have to learn how to get
up and do [ __ ] when you ain't got no
[ __ ] 5K no 10K nothing nothing exists
your life [ __ ] sucks you're in the
[ __ ] dungeon but guess what
[ __ ] I'm still going to get it
because when that time comes cu the time
is going to come when that purpose is
there you'll be ready but most of us
[ __ ] aren't ready because we don't
know how to do without having the golden
carrot in front of us yeah and so you're
all [ __ ] there's also this thing where
if you do it once it's over you get a
break oh like that's what a 10K is
that's what a marathon is I'm going to
train for this marathon and you're
you're training and you're training for
that big day but you're also recognizing
when that marathon's
over that's right that's right and as
you get better at that H moment the all
moment becomes less and less so my all
moments now are like oh I ran today I
went to the gym today I did this and
this today I studied
today I have about eight hours off in
those eight hours are glorious to me and
every day you go back out and you start
earning that and every day you wake up
it sucks and when it's over you feel
better it sucks you feel better and as
you get going as every step you take in
that Journey as you're like for me run I
run every day [ __ ] hate it but every
step I take I'm like all right
[ __ ] you're beating the demon
again you run every day but I don't
think people understand how [ __ ] up
your knees are no you you you run when
you sent me that x-ray after your
surgery and I looked at what they did to
your knee and and I looked at what it
looks like right what the actual bone on
bone looks like and how it had distorted
because there's no cushioning at all no
and the doctor said to you I can't even
believe you could [ __ ] walk on these
knees yeah forget about run thousands of
miles so you're doing this every day in
constant pain right right what is it
like well I don't suggest explain your
knees first of all so okay so PE people
think that my knees are bad from a lot
of running and they're wrong I'm I
wasn't born healthy I wasn't born with
some great body alignment some great you
know I have sickle cell I have all kind
of [ __ ] I have all kind of health issues
you know all kind of I'm I'm [ __ ] up
so I had a choice to make and the choice
was you know growing up you know okay
this hurts that hurts we can just sit
down and do nothing or we can see how
far we can push the human body so on
that Journey as I started getting more
and more into my mind and start
realizing that while what I'm capable of
doing my mind got stronger so the so the
pain in my knees while it sucked I've
been doing it for so long it was like it
became my new Norm like okay my knees
hurt [ __ ] it stop you know and I and I
call like um stop feeling sorry for
yourself but you sometimes have to
ignore your feelings I'm Ming Jamie a
picture you KNE oh no do I I I think
Jamie has some uh do you have a picture
of his KNE Jamie did I ever show send it
to you
Jamie I have it here hold on let me just
but keep going no so it's like for for
me I I made decision and my decision was
to be the best person I could and I
basically a lot of mornings I wake up
and say [ __ ] your
feelings and that doesn't mean like you
know don't take it literally [ __ ] your
feelings
but sometimes you have to go beyond what
you're feeling and my knees were [ __ ]
but guess what I wanted to run and I
knew that okay you can get knee
Replacements this and that like I said
it wasn't because of I Ran too much
people always want to say oh man you ran
so much so you [ __ ] up your body you
know you don't want to be like David
Goggins I hear all the time you w't be
like David Goggins but so there's your
name yeah there it is look look at the
fact that there's zero space between
those bones yes sir from the top from
your your your tibia to your femur
there's zero space it's just
kneecap covering two bones that are
rubbing against each other and
so this was after surgery where they had
to cut your
knee slice your shin like in half and
then take a chunk out of it because it
had deformed so much from you running
with bone on bone that it was starting
to like swell out in One Direction and
it was changing the alignment of your
leg right this happened back in 2000
2001 I was going through buds so this
happened for a long this is this right
here has been going on for a long time
so and it got to a point where it's like
okay I'm done and that's the pl that's
in there right now so as you see the
wedge that part right there in the bone
that's opened up yeah so they had to cut
it realign it and then um now the uh
alignment is better but this is now
about 17 months ago 17 18 months ago
when this happened so couldn't I get
some screws that fit go back to that
real quick
real the one sticks right out of the
[ __ ] bone hey cut that [ __ ] off yeah
that [ __ ] down is that thing sticking
into your leg no I don't well I feel the
plate every single time I move yeah so
every time so because it's like
connected to the hamstring so whenever I
[ __ ] whenever I move that plate is
very irritating so every step even like
when I walk when I run it's just it's a
very irritating thing and then you got
to wait for so long for that leg to
start getting back into place and if you
see that other picture I sent of the
foam my my foam leg that I put my hand
in I think Jennifer sent it to you Jamie
with the foam leg you'll see this in a
second this is [ __ ] up so like the
swelling in that leg was [ __ ] nuts oh
when you had EMA yeah you showed it to
me in Vegas you you were sticking your
thumb into your sh I grabbed it yeah
yeah so it was it was pretty nuts but um
you know once again it's just things you
uh things I was willing to endure to get
it right
there so that's just all post surgery
swelling yeah so when the doctor said
this to you and he he said look this is
how [ __ ] up your knee is did he say
you need a replacement what what was he
saying basically I had two options so I
went to the first guy had the surgery
done that's in the book I talked about
that but then the second guy so after
the first surgery I was done so this is
the first surgery after buds no so this
is like back in uh looking at 2000 so me
and Cameron this is recently so I didn't
have any surgery going through buds
really I didn't have any surgery at all
so I went through in 2001 I [ __ ] up 20
2001 whatever it was I messed up my leg
real bad and hell we kept on going on it
just kept on going kept what did you do
to it in how week it was like I I [ __ ]
it up somehow like running or whatever I
Happ it it can't hurt me but um it was
uh I think the boat I fell it twisted
but over a period of time it's got worse
and worse and worse so I was getting
like Tor all shots every day and then
just got worse but I'm like [ __ ] it I'm
good so I kept going on it so it kind of
healed all [ __ ] up so this kept going
kept going kept going years later years
later just kept going on it so I stopped
squatting so it became like okay my
knee's [ __ ] up my align is messed up
my hips are messed up I can't squat so
but I still run it's okay I started
running cuz running doesn't require you
to bend down and [ __ ] so I'm running a
lot and it got to um 20 years later
pretty much and it was
2020 or i g get this right camon Haynes
came down we went for a 20 mile run my
knees were [ __ ] up for like 10 years
long story short it was like okay man I
got to get this thing looked at so when
got looked at the doc was like oh we can
go in there and just do a quick little
[ __ ] you know cleanup job and the
cleanup job went so quick guy was
breaking tools and [ __ ] [ __ ] up like
literally broke tools and I have it in
there he he was breaking tools I talked
to him I know he told me your meniscus
was the hardest meniscus he's ever
experienced in his life he's like dude
he goes I didn't know that miniscus
could get that way he goes like he's not
human he goes when I was cutting into
meniscus it broke the scalpel yep Wolf's
lost and Joie said Wolf's lost something
yeah yeah he said normally when you cut
in meniscus it just slices right through
like butter he's like I couldn't cut it
yeah might went butter I went butter so
all those [ __ ] who think I went
putting them 100 while weeks go [ __ ]
yourself [ __ ] you don't get no [ __ ]
like that baby i s on the [ __ ] couch
no I mean that's the craziest thing I've
ever heard like you've hardened your
meniscus just through constant pressure
and pounding yeah so he went in there to
clean it up and then what happened so
basically that little meniscus that
whatever the [ __ ] was in there so my so
my alignment was so bad the only thing
that was keeping me able to do anything
was that little [ __ ] up messed up um
meniscus it was all Jarred up and jacked
up but the second that thing got out
dude it was like I was have you seen
Star Wars those those storm thing those
those those those big [ __ ] um things
that what they called um they have
wobbly legs when they hit like logs
robot things yeah robot things that's
how my leg was it was it had nothing it
was just like a little dangling [ __ ]
like so from my knee down the shin the
tip FIB it just dangled like there was
nothing and I was like okay man this so
was worse after the cleanup much worse
like I was done I went from running 200
M to I I did 240 mile race in in 20120
October 2020 it was Moab went out there
got second place 6 2 hours knee was
[ __ ] up getting it drained before the
[ __ ] race but I still ran 240 miles
literally 5 or 6 days before the race
I'm getting it drained and it was a
baseball siiz [ __ ] um it's called a
baker's assist so they drained it and I
went in there did the race finished it
and I was like okay here we go went on
to do some more races I did like another
200 mile did a couple more races and
then like I said cam came down but after
that I went and got this surgery done
and I went from running every day to now
I have some [ __ ] leg that just
dangles and after that surgery it just
[ __ ] dangled I was like okay man I'm
[ __ ] and just from that little piece
of manessa just that little piece of
meniscus and I'm sitting there thinking
okay man this is not this doesn't make
any sense to me this there's something
[ __ ] I don't understand why I can't I
can't put any pressure on my leg the the
amount of blood they were taking out was
was unbelievable so there's the blood
right there Jesus Christ that's the
blood dude oh my god there one two three
four five you see the black blood yeah
that is deoxygenated blood so whatever
was going on whatever the [ __ ] was going
on that's why it looks different color
so the red blood is the the blood that
has oxygen right and that was just like
coagulated [ __ ] up blood yep Jesus
yeah so that so after surgery I'm like
I'm like seven seven days out or
whatever the [ __ ] it was and once again
I don't know the exact times but I have
them in the book I have everything
[ __ ] dialed in um I went back I was
like man I'm I'm [ __ ] up I mean it's a
simple miniscus surgery man like people
go back a week later they're playing two
weeks three weeks tops I'm like man I'm
never going to [ __ ] run again I'm G
to walk with the [ __ ] limp so I'm
going back I'm getting [ __ ] like um
literally getting my knee drained every
week getting PRP I'm like man but in the
back of my mind I I know how far I can
push myself I know my body so [ __ ]
well so well and I'm like this is um
this is wrong I go I'm never gonna run
again
I'm never going to run again I walk with
the limp so this went on for about six
six months so I had the surgery done in
February it was uh February March April
May
June about four months four months after
surgery four or five months I'm like hey
Jennifer um I gotta find another you
know somebody else look at my [ __ ]
knee so I try to keep my [ __ ] together
but imagine when you go from every day
of your [ __ ] life grinding and you go
to nothing mhm like literally like
90minut surgery done that's crazy that
it was just a little meniscus scope 90
minute surgery done and I was like okay
man this is anyway so I found this guy
named Dr Gamal out of New York and we
fly there but I'm like he can't fix this
man because I knew it was a lot more
than knes it was just it was all kind of
this [ __ ] up body [ __ ] and I walk in
the office and he decides to see me and
me and Jennifer in there Jennifer's
happy
she's happy as [ __ ] it's like oh my God
man this guy's going to be able to get
you a a [ __ ] miniscus replacement he
he was all kind of Guru out but I'm a
realist bro I will push myself and I
will go as far as I can but I also am a
realist I also knew in the back of my
mind I'm not gonna try to ruin your
[ __ ] party Jennifer this what I'm
saying myself but this shit's done it's
over so but I went just to pretty much
appease her and just see you know if
there anything left so walk in the
office and the doctor's like uh yeah I'm
looking at your X-rays and that's the
Doctor Who's like I don't know how this
is one the Dr Gamal look him up world
renowned [ __ ] dude and when this
guy looked at me straight-faced he said
man I don't know how you did
anything with those knes anything let
alone run 200 miles back to back 240
miles what the [ __ ] you did I don't know
how you did it and so I'm like okay
whatever can we get it fixed and he
didn't want to get get there cuz he knew
I was [ __ ] he's like no you know we we
can maybe you know try an in un loader
brace maybe an un loader brace will help
you out and I was like what's an
unloaded brace so basically my knee went
in on the miniscus side on the inside so
it was like jamming in the inside so
this brace kind of like it kind of helps
realign the knee a little bit so then
you cannot have so much pressure on the
inside of your leg so that's it right
there one side yeah so basically I'm
like man I'm like okay I'm not
so this is all you have for me I'm like
you can't do [ __ ] for me and he was like
um no and he was walking out of the
office and he could tell I was like I
wasn't too [ __ ] up but I was like CU I
kind of was preparing myself for the
next part of my journey I don't like to
lay in my [ __ ] too long you I give
myself a couple minutes okay
[ __ ] we gota man the [ __ ] up we
gotta get back in this [ __ ] like
what's next you know let's go let's go
see you know let's let's go back to
college let's let's do something because
you're you're running and you're let
Chris done so he got to the door he
opened it and as he was literally he was
shouldered out the [ __ ] door
and I'm looking at Jennifer I'm like
well you know we'll go back to [ __ ]
you know go back to Nevada and [ __ ]
start again and he was
like try the unloaded brace out and
there's one more thing we could possibly
do for you and I'm like [ __ ]
like get your little monkey [ __ ] ass
back in here bro like what is is it like
like like what the [ __ ] going on so he
was like yeah there's this surgery
called
HTO and he was like you can go in we can
[ __ ] you know pretty much break your
tibia it's called high tibia osteotomy
they go in and they break your tibia
they they they like slice into it and
they they wedge it to the point where
they realign your leg back up it's a
very painful surgery it's very painful
afterwards painful as [ __ ] afterwards
and they put that plate the plate you
saw back on and then your leg is so so
your knee is still where it was because
this doesn't get fixed so it takes
several months for that knee to start
working it way back into where that
alignment is so now my leg is just now
so here it is you see it on the image
yeah so they they take a slice out of it
because it's deformed yep and that slice
lowers the part that's deformed and
tries to make it a more natural shape
but you're still dealing with bone on
bone so you're still deal you're still
dealing with the pain of arthritis
essentially cuz do you have any
cartilage in your knees not much not
much at all if any so the thing about it
it takes that pressure off of that so it
was complete bone on bone right what
that surgery does is it takes it over to
the lateral side so on the outside so I
I have a nice meniscus over there that
thing wasn't touched for years because
how I was born all the pressure was on
the uh my um medal meniscus so your knee
had been misaligned your whole life
whole life that's what yeah that's my
whole life has been [ __ ] up so my
Meniscus on my lateral side is
pristine so now the way he did it is
that all of my pressure is going on to
that pristine miniscus okay so now it's
all about getting that leg back aligned
which is taken forever and it's still
not aligned it's getting there it's
getting there yeah it's getting there
cuz M was so [ __ ] up can they do a
meniscus replacement on you no so that's
what I wanted to get done but if your
knee is so far gone like mine was there
was no option for that why is that
because my knee was so far gone so it
would like when you put that meniscus in
there however it works he said it
wouldn't have taken it like basically it
would have taken it but it would have
[ __ ] destroyed it because your leg is
so your knee is so [ __ ] up so this was
the only option for me don't they make
like an artificial meniscus now as well
yep and this with this guy really is
specializes in so he's he's like the guy
to go to for that stuff what is an
artificial meniscus consist of I guess
it's just I have no idea I'm not even
going to get into that [ __ ] see if we
can find out what that is cu I got some
[ __ ] up knees too not like yours
though if I ever think about complaining
I look at yours yes sir see world's
first artificial meniscus available in
Israel and there you go Andreas
gal yeah there he is and so this it
looks like some sort of a clear gel
looking stuff and which is you know the
the meniscus is just a cushioning in
between the two bones and the cartilage
and this is uh oh look at that
yep
H and but they can't do that to you no
you have to be a good candidate for that
so your knee has to be in a certain
certain condition and mine was not in
that condition it was it was F if if you
were candidate for that would they be
able to do it and you be able to run or
is that just like to move around and
walk from what I read about you can you
can run you can do everything you want
to do but sometimes if you do a lot it
wears it out so you but you could get a
new one get a new one yeah that's not
that bad not that bad man for you it
doesn't work no because basically it
wouldn't even work for me because my
knee was gone but the way he reshaped it
wouldn't that correct I mean he kind of
like changed your alignment of your knee
and made it more normal I think it had
he made it more normal but from what I
understand um if you put that in there
structurally like like structure-wise
what what makes it more normal is the
surgery he did so right now there's no
bone on bone for me so there's no need
for that meniscus at all so a lot of
people get their meniscus taken out if
you have the right alignment and your
body can do what it's supposed to do
really yeah but if you get your KNE your
miniscus taken out you're just cartilage
on cartilage if you know um Dwayne Wade
Dwayne basketball player yeah I believe
Dwayne Wade played years years if I'm
correct with no meniscus yeah I I think
in both his knees Jesus yeah years he
had he end up having like really bad
knee problems but his meniscus was
messed up back in the day they used to
take it out so if you look here here it
is was in college wow surgery to remove
the meniscus in his left knee 11 years
ago while he was at Marquette led to
ongoing knee problems he's had with
Miami Heat I'm so glad that you have
this [ __ ] thing to pull up Jamie
because I would be talking out my ass
half the damn time that's I do man you
[ __ ] [ __ ] squar me away brother
knees are a problem man yeah and the
fact that you require your knees to do
what you do like your your whole thing
is endurance athlete right and to be an
endurance athlete you got to be able to
move your legs you got to be able to
move them but what I like about and this
was this was like literally a a trained
skill for me was I'm I'm always
preparing for like not being a [ __ ]
like a lot of people get to a point like
for instance like if Jennifer can't do
something like if you know if if if she
can't go for a run or whatever just like
cuz she something's wrong like some
simple [ __ ] it's G to bother her I got
to a point in my life where I realize
this is life and so I move on past
things real quick so people like oh my
God what are you gonna do David if you
can't run [ __ ] I'll swim or I'll
go to college or I'll do something else
this like like this isn't my life so I'm
I'm I'm I'm I'm very aware how quick
life can take [ __ ] from you and I've
always prepared my mind for the next
chapter and what happened with me was I
started this thing called front loading
so when I was young I used to be a
little piece of [ __ ] you know like
[ __ ] oh I'm not good enough I can't
do this I can't do that but the second I
got my head out of my ass and I realized
man you can achieve a lot of [ __ ] if you
get off your ass and you start moving
and you start motivating yourself start
becoming a self motivator so I started
front loading and front loing is people
man you've done so much by 47 because I
don't know what tomorrow is going to
bring me so my my military resume is fat
you know I [ __ ] did a lot in the
military I did a lot outside the
military I've I've I've made money I've
I've I've done almost every race out
there hard race in the world I've broken
pull-up records I've done a lot of [ __ ]
so when these bad times come and also
not like like not only that like work
your ass off so so you can enjoy yeah
yeah you taking a shot
you know you you may not live to be old
but what if you do and you worked your
ass off when you were able and you were
able to [ __ ] get up early able to
grind if you frontload it properly the
back half of your [ __ ] life is money
and that's what I did the second I
realized that man you are a piece of
[ __ ] we got to get going because at 47
man you're not GNA be able to do any of
this [ __ ] 50 whatever you are so I front
loaded so all these bad things have
happened to me I sit back man how are
you handling this so well [ __ ]
i' I've done it I front loaded I have
the money I need I have the success I
need I have the [ __ ] the the
determination the willpower and also the
pride in myself so when I wake up every
morning I know who the [ __ ] I am I
frontload it perfectly so I don't care
what's taken from
me but it's got to still there got to be
a strange position to be in where your
body is your medium the body is the
vehicle for you to express yourself
right and your body's breaking down mhm
and I know that they considered doing
knee Replacements on you too yep and
what was that conversation like it was
it was very basic man it's like hey you
know you're you're not going to be able
to do some of the [ __ ] that you've done
even though obviously people are but
that was a conversation and I know it
sounds weird it was totally fine with me
it was fine because I had dude people
don't understand this this wasn't like a
a part-time job man when you've done
without like Kobe Bryant when Kobe [ __ ]
retired at last game he like 60 points
or some [ __ ] he walked off the court he
didn't [ __ ] cry he said oh my God I'm
going to miss the sport what the [ __ ] he
walked off he gave he gave everything he
could man when you [ __ ] give what
I've given and [ __ ] like to say
oh you [ __ ] you you don't [ __ ] know
[ __ ] which makes me who I am I've given
everything people make oh you you ran on
[ __ ] up knees you taped your feet up
you blah blah you had two heart surg you
kept on going yep sure did I had
somewhere to [ __ ] go I had somewhere
to [ __ ] go and I got there and Buddy
when [ __ ] tell you you can take
a break now hey you're [ __ ] up as long
as my knees are halfway worked I got to
run you're telling me man may maybe
chance I can't run no more H give me an
excuse to [ __ ] not do [ __ ] but as
long as I have no excuse I gotta do it
but I I was I was happy where I was I
gave everything I give everything to who
I am and that's why I'm people I don't
believe that don't don't believe it I
gave everything and when you give
everything man you have no regret people
didn't understand me people don't
understand me now I don't give a [ __ ] I
know exactly what I was doing I'm not a
masochist I'm not crazy I'm not this and
that people try to title me and label me
no I had something to [ __ ] do well
the way I describe it to people when
people ask me like why does he do all
these things like what is what is the
motivation here I go he's on a mental
Journey that very few people have ever
been on because the what people don't
understand you they or they
misunderstand you or they purposely
misinterpret the way you're living your
life you're trying to understand your
mind in a way that very few human beings
ever get to understand their mind
because you're taking your mind into
these terrible Dark Places all the time
and you're trying to pull things out of
that you're trying to to learn things
about yourself and about your potential
from that that's exactly it and that's
what people don't understand I studi the
darkness you you find no [ __ ] answers
in the light none it's too happy it's
too nice and we're not we don't need to
be taught how to live in happiness that
that just comes naturally to us happy
moments but the dark times man you can't
and you can't get there unless you put
yourself there life will take you there
but when you get into those dark moments
that's why people that's why people how
are you able man I couldn't [ __ ] read
and write to I was a junior in high
school how are you able to write like
this man
[ __ ] I go to such places in my
mind and I study the darkness like it's
not just physical when I was growing up
and I saw my mom getting beat and I got
beat and I was some stuttering little
black kid in allh school and I'm on
stage and I gotta say one line one
[ __ ] line in front of [ __ ] 15
people and I walk up stage kind with
[ __ ] stutter
all those insecurities and all those
[ __ ] things man I used to go home and
[ __ ] cry like my God man I'm [ __ ]
up I'm just all [ __ ] up I I'm hang on
man as I got older we got to study this
[ __ ] man the only way we're g to [ __ ]
get through this if we study it so every
time I'm in a dark moment and life's
[ __ ] up around me whether it be
physical or just life I get in it man
with a [ __ ] pen and paper I'm like
okay this [ __ ] sucks I can feel like
I'm [ __ ] losing my [ __ ] but let's
[ __ ] study this let's come out of the
this [ __ ] genius you know I
studed the I studied the the the the
black matter of the Mind the dark matter
you know like [ __ ] stepen Hawkins
that's if that's [ __ ] his name I said
it right that [ __ ] studied the
space and [ __ ] yeah that's where I
consider myself man you know I I was on
a journey just like you said I mean you
you you couldn't have said any better
and so many people get it wrong and I
don't give a [ __ ] man you can't for me I
cannot help people there's a lot of
cookie cutter [ __ ] out here in this
world
discipline wake up early take coach
shower [ __ ] this [ __ ] that whatever it's
all [ __ ] [ __ ] it's not but what
they don't teach you within the cookie
cutter is like our minds are like a
[ __ ]
garage and the garage if you open a
garage and it's all cluttered up it's
all [ __ ] up you can't put your car in
there you got [ __ ] boats and you got
[ __ ] kids toys and [ __ ] everywhere
but if you organize that [ __ ] garage
and you put everything rightful spot you
can pull that car in there you can put
two cars in there you can put bikes in
there and that's like with the Mind
people talk about discipline and [ __ ]
determination and [ __ ] you know
repetitions and all this [ __ ]
consistency why people fall off the
wagon so often is because their mind is
full of [ __ ] there's no room in that
mind for discipline there's no room for
consistency they may do it once or twice
but then the mind takes over in that
cluttered [ __ ] garage
comes in and then it's like a circuit
breaker man a circuit breaker just
overloads and it [ __ ] Sparks and our
minds that's that's our mind man it's
like a [ __ ] circuit breaker that so
much [ __ ] in it you keep on loading it
you can't put any more into it so I've I
talk about it in there man so much about
clearing space in your [ __ ] mind so
then you have room for all those
discipline waking up early taking those
because they they they do mean something
but we don't get to that [ __ ]
dark matter that is keeping you from
clearing out that mental
garage that's a good way to put it
because that is the mind of most people
is filled with stuff that they have to
move around to get to what they want and
it's constantly piling up and there [ __ ]
unorganized and organized mind man
you're looking at the [ __ ] I got to
take care of the kids the kids scals was
all [ __ ] up my husband my my wife you
know I'm I I [ __ ] I'm going by
McDonald's to get this and I'm in my
schedule everything's just [ __ ] I wish
I was doing this but I'm doing that and
that and this and I want a raise but I
can't get one my boss an [ __ ] where's
greatness in that man you can't you you
can't fit discipline into that you can't
fit structure you can't fit consistency
you can't fit to grind and then when you
try it just gets [ __ ] it gets [ __ ]
overrun by the [ __ ] clutter in your
[ __ ] up mental garage when you are in
these dark places and you're Gathering
up these
lessons how difficult is it to try to
bring that back and convey it to people
when you're not in that space like when
you're in that space when you're in the
Moab 240 and you're going uphill and
you're in the middle of the it's just
deep suck right how do you convey where
that mental fortitude comes from how do
you bring that back it's almost like
you've got something you can't even hold
in your hand and you want to show it to
people I take
snapshots so every time I'm in a bad
situation like you know I I study it and
that's the only reason I do have to [ __ ]
I do is I'm studying this [ __ ] because I
know that I never thought I was G to be
writing books and trying to help people
get better but I'm I was always trying
to do it because I knew I
sucked and so when you know you're
trying to get somewhere you know you
suck you know that you you believe that
you're a born
loser you are taking snapshots man like
you know you you see something on your
phone like oh man I'm going to take a
[ __ ] snapshot of that or how you do
the little picture [ __ ] so you can save
it on your phone I do that in my mind so
I get in these moments I'm like [ __ ]
okay wow that's some [ __ ] good
knowledge right there man I snapshot it
because I know that I can use that later
I can I can I can use this because I'm
not out there just I'm not most people
they go out and they run and they go out
and they do and they're like oh this is
beautiful look at the [ __ ] Mountains
and the [ __ ] and all this [ __ ] no I
don't like it my body hurts I'm hurting
how do we get through this and it's a
[ __ ] it's a it's it's a lab it's my
mental lab and I and so when I come home
I'm not forgetting it and the second I
every day I get done running every day I
get through work and every day I get
through studying whatever it is that
brings me to that place of knowledge I
come home and that book was mostly
written on scratched piece of paper in
hand so I come home from from running
and I write everything out I write
everything out all those things and as
I'm running I'm talking about it so all
these things that pop my head as I
continue to run I'm going through it I'm
I'm starting to layer it down I'm
starting to break it down into okay that
happened okay now now let's layer this
because that's just not how it happened
it just didn't happen that way what led
up to this and so it becomes Me by
myself in school I'm literally going to
school right now and I'm learning so
when I come home I write it out and and
then I'm able to write out and I'm able
to think about it and say okay oh this
is good [ __ ] this is this will help me
later on and then it becomes what it is
now and when you try to convey it to
people what what do you when when you're
writing it out and when you're talking
about it like what are you thinking are
you thinking that this is going to get
into someone's mind and this is going to
help them motivate themselves are you
just trying to express yourself and let
them do with it what they
can I'm them you're them I'm them I and
the [ __ ] up thing about me why I'm
able to do it the way I'm able to do it
I'm not above them I was never above
them a lot of people write where they
are they write where they are oh yeah
like [ __ ] you right now writing you
have a good life man you have a [ __ ]
good life I don't write from that place
I write from the place that I am the the
the the the place that created who I am
I go back to that place I call going
back to scratch
I can't write about David goggin now
David goggin now is a
success people want to get to be to feel
whatever success is for them they want
to feel that so I can't write it here at
David goggin successful I must write at
David gogin [ __ ] man I'm a [ __ ] I
don't feel good about myself and every
day I go through that Journey so that's
where it comes from it comes from
scratch all that [ __ ] all my knowledge
comes from going back to where the real
growth growth doesn't happen when you
make it so far in life you make it so
high up the whatever it is whatever
you're trying to be there's no more
growth there's small growth but you
remember back when you [ __ ] tried to
become Joe Rogan you are now how much
growth was in that tons of growth
learning lessons learn so I go I always
RIS that's why I'm a [ __ ] wildland
firefighter now wh why I'm a [ __ ]
smoke jumper I don't need to do that
[ __ ] at all but I don't learn learn
anything from where I'm at now there's
no knowledge up here the knowledge is
down there in the [ __ ] muck so that's
where I write that's where I go back
that's where I learn I always go back to
school always go back to the basics I
always go back to first
grade and how much of that is tied to
doing things physically though there's
like there's a there's a certain kind of
physical struggle that you go through
particularly with what you excel at
which is endurance athlete work when
when there's a mental and physical thing
that happens when the two of them are
together it doesn't happen in anything
else like you can do hard work hard
mental work and it's very difficult and
I'm sure you can learn a lot from that
right but it doesn't have the physical
pain that comes with the suck of
endurance work yes there's nothing
nothing in the world that you're able
I'm able to get let's say I that Moab
240 I was in 62 hours
[ __ ] sucked it's just with blown out
knees blown out knees literally the a
few days before the race I'm getting
them drained Before the Race so that's
in your [ __ ] mind man like it ain't
like oh I show up to start like oh this
is [ __ ] great I'm gonna [ __ ] have
a good time out here no I'm thinking all
right let's have my [ __ ] knees
drained like I'm I'm in pain at Mile
zero and that's in your brain I have 240
miles of [ __ ] ahead of me and there's
nothing in life nothing in life this is
why I love Endurance Sports so much I
love it and I hate it it's LoveHate
relationship 62
hours I equate that to [ __ ] seven
years of
life you can't get that man so what I
know that Ultra does for me is it packs
in it packs in I can't I can't live
several
lifetimes I can't see because the
knowledge I need to gain for this life I
live in today I need two or three or
four lifetimes to be where I want to go
Ultra gives it to me in [ __ ] high
definition real fast 62 hours you go out
there [ __ ] suffer you come back oh
that was 62 hours I gained seven [ __ ]
years of knowledge the ups and downs the
pain The Suffering The the you you learn
how to chunk the [ __ ] down like oh my
God man I'm at Mile 100 how the [ __ ] am
I get toor
118 everything becomes you you start to
learn Life out there and you learn so
much in such a condens period of time
and nothing in the world can do it like
pushing yourself to the absolute limit I
I I caught like
so people have talent people have a lot
of
talent and this is going beyond your
talent so when Talent when there's no
more Talent what happens happens to you
most people
quit people only go to their talent
level and once their talent level is
gone it becomes a mental game that that
whole mental game sets in then and most
people can only perform to their talent
and they realize man why am I always
messing up right here why why why is
this like my big my big hurdle it's
because you're performing to your
talent and then after that your mind has
nothing for
you nothing for you I see I see Fighters
I see Runners I see people who they're
great but they get to the edge of their
talent it's like [ __ ] man what what's
what's up because you're now at the
point now where you're talented could do
[ __ ] for you my
friend now it's the mental
game and that's where people get lost in
life get lost in that next level and
that next level is found for me in the
things that I do just misunderstood
that's a giant problem with Fighters yep
there's many fighters that are Elite
level in the gym but when they get tired
and when they get pushed and when they
get into that there's a when the world
starts narrowing and the walls start
closing in and they can't see
peripherally anymore Y and they're
exhausted and they start making mistakes
so all of their understanding of what to
do next gets clapped outed because
they're thinking about quitting they're
thinking about being exhausted when am I
going to get a break how much do I have
left in a tank can I even push forward
here or will I gas out and risk getting
stopped and that is exactly what you
said goes on into the human mind yeah
when Talent when you have a talent
problem yeah it's exactly what goes on
your mind so how are you going to
[ __ ] defeat that bro you're sitting
there getting beat the [ __ ] down by a
[ __ ] just on you [ __ ] just
going you down take down take down take
down hit in the face hit in the face and
all it's going through your mind is what
you just [ __ ] said there's no
positivity in that but when you train
the mind the way I train mine [ __ ]
ready man [ __ ] ready because first of
all I didn't have much talent so I had
to train one [ __ ] thing you better
train your [ __ ] mind because my
talents going to run out way early when
[ __ ] got hard for me back in the day bro
I'm done I'm out see you okay I got to
invent a [ __ ] that can so I
invented goggin I invented a
[ __ ] that that that realized
we're not good enough but gogins
realizes we're mentally strong as [ __ ]
and we're going to outstrength these
[ __ ] in the mind there's a big
um there's an understanding in fighting
that sometimes
Talent is a curse because some people
are very talented and they just don't
work as hard you know uh khabib Nur off
talks about that and he's one of the
greatest mixed martial arts fighters of
all time one of the rare guys to retire
undefeated but he's like talented guys
don't work hard enough no he's like
talented guys the problem with talented
guys is they can get by early they're
they're like faster than people maybe
they just have a better understanding or
better coordination some people just you
know we're not even like people are not
even in their abilities when it comes to
sports some people are just very gifted
yes but gifted fighters in particular
they just there's something about it
where a lot of them never realize their
full potential no because they don't
develop that mental game that you're
talking about they don't have to because
they could piece people up on the
outside they win fights easy they stop a
bunch of people in the first round they
look like a hero but then when someone
comes along that can survive that first
round and then start dragging him into
hell that's right oh and you see and
that's you said you drag a [ __ ]
into hell who's a [ __ ] who's a demon
yeah you're in the long for a long race
and and they're hard people with a
talent problem who are so talented
they're hard to train they're hard to
push if if if you're their coach and you
trying to get them to see that we got to
get you past this Talent problem we got
we got to get you to the point where
you're into that mental Zone because we
got to get you way past your talent and
it's it's hard for coaches to take these
these f or whoever past their talent and
on the other side is that is where they
gain true true levels the the the levels
Beyond talent that that's where it
really is because if you're able to take
a [ __ ] down to Deep
End while [ __ ] just putting his
toe in feeling the water and [ __ ] if it
my first in the deep end he would take
you down there and he's mentally strong
it's over it's over man they because
they because they live in the deep end
they live in it man they thrive in it
you it's almost like you have to have
the ability to go to the deep end no
matter whether or not you'll ever go
there right yes and some people are like
well I'm never going to go to the deep
end but you should be able to yes 100%
you have to be trained to do it you have
to be trained for it for that time comes
you're like okay I'm deep in qualified
yeah I am deep in [ __ ] qualified I
got my [ __ ] deep in certification but
you know what's interesting about this
book is you talk about how there was
moments even though you're clearly deep
end qualified clearly deep end certified
yes sir you took some time and you
hadn't been a deep end for a while and
you like I'm kind of a part-time Savage
now right this is kind of [ __ ] and
you're recognizing it in yourself even
though you know your ability you know
your history you know what you've been
capable of doing in the past you're like
but I haven't been there nope I haven't
been there in a while and you had to go
back what's funny about that part-time
Savage thing in there man where I
[ __ ] totally dogged myself because
the truth um all this became nice
waking up
[ __ ] bakon in eggs [ __ ]
[ __ ] [ __ ] protein shake early morning
[ __ ] and I stopped having those hard
conversations with
myself boy my whole life that's why
motherfu hate my ass boy because I'm
hard on me if I'm hard on me I don't
give a [ __ ] about you I don't give a
[ __ ] about what you think I don't give a
[ __ ] you think about me nothing else
hard on myself bro every morning I woke
up all right [ __ ] I call my
morning meeting
my morning me we all have these [ __ ]
meetings all [ __ ] day long you know
we go to work we're we're working for
somebody else they want a meeting
because they want to be successful so we
all sit our ass down try to make them
better try to make them more money try
to make them more powerful we don't do
that for ourselves so every morning I
wake up I used to I I had to get back
into it again because in that chapter
you see I became a little [ __ ] that
morning meeting I wake up okay goggin
what did you do [ __ ] up yesterday
where were you at and I go through and
analyze my life and then went through a
period of time there man where I stopped
having those conversations you know how
you let's say you and your wife go out
let's say I don't I don't know just make
up a story here you and your wife go out
and you see your cousin and your
cousin's fat as [ __ ] I don't know I
don't know they are not hopefully not if
they are apologize maybe so they go out
and you see your cousin she's fat as
[ __ ] he's fat as [ __ ] whoever
and you guys get back in the car and you
guys man you see [ __ ] Mary Joe
how that she was that's what we do we go
back in the hard conversation that you
should be having with Mary Joel hey Mary
Joel you [ __ ] gained some weight huh
sister [ __ ] kind of big that's what I
do to myself a lot of people that we see
all day long we see them you don't have
the hard conversation with we we walk
around I rather you [ __ ] hate me and
get better than like me and stay the
same and that's how I feel about David
Goggins [ __ ] I rather me hate I
hating you David man I hate you David
but I get better from it I get better
from it and that's why when people see
me and I know you you're you're in my
little Foxhole if you're in my Foxhole
and you become a piece of [ __ ] hey come
here brother let me talk to you real
quick Brother people don't like that
[ __ ] man but I'm not going to allow you
to go to a place that's going to be hard
to get out of it's G to be hard if I
allow you gain five more pounds or allow
you take four more days off of school or
like to keep on procrastinating in your
[ __ ] life and I see and I tell
Jennifer behind your back I'm doing you
no [ __ ] Justice zero justice so where
this world is now you can't say a
[ __ ] thing I do I still do and
I always will don't like me don't like
me I'm good with that that's exactly
what's going on with like fat models
that's it I'm proud like you're
beautiful no matter what but that's not
true and the thing about it is I have no
problem if you want to be fat I have no
problem with anybody if you want to be
whatever the [ __ ] you want to be but
make sure you [ __ ] if you're fat
[ __ ] go go be fat go be real
[ __ ] fat but let's be real nobody
wants to be fat nobody does that's why I
said it man nobody does that's not true
they will pretend I'm fine with it but
if I could give you a button that you
could push and boink be skinny all of a
sudden you'd have this incredible body
take everybody would push that button
but what happens is man we get in this
world where it gets hard yeah
and so the harder it is the more you
start to push
back and the more you push back and then
it's not right for people to talk about
it's not right for like let's say you
are fat I was fat that's why I talk
about it go ahead and say something
[ __ ] I was fat too and it was
hard as [ __ ] every [ __ ] day to get up
I know what it feels like when you roll
your fat ass out of bed and all you want
is some [ __ ] damn cinnamon buns and
[ __ ] and [ __ ] CH chocolate milkshakes
I I know what it is I know exactly what
it is but I can't want it more than you
and so many people just want it the easy
way it I'm sorry man it's not so what
they start to do is they build this
Narrative of it's okay when the
narrative should be you need to [ __ ]
work harder you need to [ __ ]
discipline your mind better we need to
help people more than just saying it's
okay it's okay that you're not [ __ ]
willing to [ __ ] help yourself out
that's not not okay it's not okay it's
not acceptable even though it's your
life if that's if if that's acceptable
that's unacceptable and there's a lot of
people in this world me included that if
I accepted that I wouldn't be anywhere
so yeah a lot of people just [ __ ]
they they start creating a narrative
about themselves that make it okay the
ultimate get out jail free card and now
the world is set up to have so many gel
free cards everything is okay and you
can't say a [ __ ] thing about it
this is what it's interesting though is
that when you're talking about how you
had to come to this realization that
You' become a part-time Savage this is
recently yeah that's uh you're looking
at
200
no 2018 yeah yeah 2018 not that long ago
no [ __ ] no yeah so even though you've
been through all those things and you
have all this information in your head
it's like there's no rest no you never
get a chance and if you do take a little
time and start enjoying it all of a
sudden that General in the back of your
head is like hey hey look what you're
doing exactly you're being a little
[ __ ] and so in your mind you had gotten
soft oh 100% And my softness was still
two days so if you look in there two a
days was you being soft my part-time
Savage was me running like 50 miles a
week me [ __ ] not you know because
what what I used to do and what I do now
is I got to a point I be running I was
like okay man we could do 10 miles today
I get I get to 10 miles like oh no
[ __ ] that [ __ ] demon that I
let out every [ __ ] morning that walks
the streets at night he comes say no
[ __ ] not today man there's somebody out
there that you don't know have never
[ __ ] met in your entire life that is
doing 12 13 14 going to do another one
and when you meet
him you ain't gonna be [ __ ] ready so
goggin kept on running so you talk about
that and uh you talk about how cam came
to visit you in Vegas and gave you a
spot check oh yeah oh yeah I'm always
ready for a [ __ ] like cam I'm
always ready for a mother like cam so
out of nowhere dude this guy calls me
literally and this is one thing about
life this is why you always must be
ready always be ready never get ready
people go oh hey what do you training
for David I ain't training for [ __ ] when
something pops up I'll be [ __ ] ready
so when Cam Pop the [ __ ] up and cam
calls hey man I'm going to be in uh Las
Vegas you want to go for a
run sure do sure do brother sure do
while the Run sucked I was ready well
you guys were doing like six minute
miles for like 26 miles it was Brut it
was 20 miles and Jennifer was with us
and so Jennifer can run her [ __ ] ass
off she's fast as [ __ ] so we went out
but she's not a six-minute mile Runner
so we went out for the first first 10
and Jennifer is with us she was with us
for the first seven she turned around I
think she did like 15 miles so me and
Cam went out after we left Jennifer she
went back for another three to go out
and get 10 and come back 10 but my whole
idea was I know the course [ __ ] I'm
about to drop your [ __ ] ass
[ __ ] so we go out cause because
going out is a little bit um as old I
think it was a little bit uphill no a
little bit downhill a little bit
downhill so a little bit downhill so we
turn around 10 Mile Mark come back and I
could tell Cam was hurting boy but Cam's
a prideful [ __ ] dude prideful
[ __ ] love that dude so we get to
about mile 16 17 and I could tell now he
kind of comes off my shoulder slightly
and I'm like oh [ __ ] in the armor I
feel it you know you eyes kind looking
at you know out you know out of your
prip vision but I'm like this is a
prideful [ __ ] man and keep on
going man holding sixes we gets about
mile 18 I look Cam's right back on the
shoulder I just smiled I said you are
exactly who the [ __ ] I thought you were
a [ __ ] and so we went out tested
each other man good day went to the gym
worked out hard went and got some steak
same day same oh we [ __ ] worked it
out dude whenever meet him together you
can guarantee it's G to be two people
that love each other but are waiting for
the other [ __ ] to break
100% dude it's like this thing in the
back of her head okay maybe this will
break them maybe this will break him so
we haven't broken each other yet but I'm
sure the day will come so so you run 20
miles and then you lift weights but see
lifting weights people like people don't
get it man it's not like lifting weights
it's like you know we go and do like so
many reps like people go oh you're only
doing um was like 90 some pounds on the
incline [ __ ] do five sets of 2
five with a super set of push-ups super
set of curls super set of pull-ups super
set of triceps super set of what the
[ __ ] else was I forget it's a super set
man so we're going through lifting
lightweight but for massive massive
amounts of reps and so you're like
totally swollen and like it's just the
some some of the best workouts in the
world between me and him some of the
best workouts in the world man and then
you had steak and then we had steak
that's right then and then I treat can
to a steak right and that's a mental aid
station mental oh yes mental Aid
stations baby I think one of the most
important parts about the way you
express yourself in your books is that
you do talk about your weaknesses and
you you do talk about your past and how
you started off on this journey and you
talk about how there are those moments
that you doubt oh yeah and you but you
still go oh yeah sometimes like you know
I call it uh you got call an audible you
know the line of scrimmage man like some
of the great
quarterbacks they'll be at the line of
scrimmage and they'll look at the
defense the defense is oh [ __ ] defense
is Shifting then he calling audible in
my mind a lot of times man I'm like it
doesn't mean I quit I don't quit you
know I may not make it the first time
but I'll come back I gota call an
audible I gotta [ __ ] I gotta I gotta
[ __ ] get my head back in the game I
gotta I gotta figure this [ __ ] out it
doesn't mean you leave it means you
study it more it means you study it more
and and whenever I feel at something
people I say man how do you handle
failure man I fail a lot dude I fail all
the [ __ ] time they go how do you
handle it what I'm trying to do and this
isn't being arrogant man I I it's being
real not many people are trying to do so
there's not many people that who who can
even open their [ __ ] mouth and
criticize me when I do fail because I'm
on I'm I'm I'm trying to do [ __ ] man
that many people aren't trying to do but
I don't look at failure as failure I
look at failure as your first second
third fourth fifth attempt I look at
them as attempts I don't look at
anything as failure because when you're
willing to try to do some not trying is
failure that's that's and that's not
some after school special [ __ ] but when
you're able to go out there there there
is no failure it's attempts because when
you're trying to do something that's
bigger than you whatever you are whoever
you are if if if you're paralyzed you
trying to walk one step and you didn't
you didn't fail [ __ ] that was
your first attempt if that's your
biggest thing that's how your mindset
needs to go into everything so I don't
look at it as failure is a big word like
that gets people down and [ __ ] we give
so much power to words I don't I take
the power right away I didn't feel [ __ ]
do you ever have conversations with Cam
about
mindset we no we we we really don't go
there too much at all about mindset like
whenever we get together it's really
about breaking the [ __ ] down
like it's like it's like but wouldn't
you be interested though in how he
approach because I don't know if
everybody shares your approach I know
there's not very many people like you
right cam is one of them right so like
how many of them are like you and how
many of them have that sort of similar
approach and how many of them are
willing to discuss their own demons
because a lot of people that are like
super endurance athletes or very hard
people they don't ever want to even
discuss the weakness they don't want to
shine any light on it no people hate
that yeah people hate it man and I love
it and the re hate it to me this is just
my own theory is because you haven't
beat
it that's why people go man why are you
so open and vulnerable I'll tell you
everything I lied about everything I
[ __ ] up with every I'll tell you
everything I am an open [ __ ] book I
don't give a [ __ ] the only reason why I
don't give a [ __ ] anymore is because I
overcame it and I beat it so I'm will to
talk about it why most people aren't
willing to go to that darkness and that
vulnerability is because they're still
dealing with it
when people who have overcome it they're
open [ __ ] book bro because they're
proud they're [ __ ] proud that's why I
speak man man why are you always yelling
guys [ __ ] you this how I talk [ __ ] cuz
I'm proud motherfu you know what I'm
saying I'm a proud [ __ ] man it's
not proud like look at me it's like
[ __ ] I know where I [ __ ] came
from [ __ ] I shouldn't be here right now
talking to you shouldn't be talking to
you [ __ ] I shouldn't be here I
us a fat sloppy [ __ ] I'm proud
so I'm able to tell you I was [ __ ] up
many people can't you know that's a
common thing that people say when I
interview them after fights like I'm not
supposed to be here this is not supposed
to happen to me I not there's a common
thing when I've had conversations with
people and they you know they've won a
big fight they've had this big event
right they they say I wasn't supposed to
be here right statistically like Chris
Gutierrez just said that uh last UFC
fight when I interviewed him he like I'm
not supposed to be here right probably
because they come from a bad place
exactly you know they and when you're in
a bad especially when you're young you
know redevelop
self-esteem you know by the age of seven
if you're if if if you're not good by
the age of seven or eight years old you
have a good chance of being [ __ ] the
rest of your life yeah so if your
parents or or you came up wrong and then
seven or eight if you don't have the
self-esteem but you [ __ ] grind you're
like I want to be better when you get to
that
UFC Championship or you get to where
where I got or where I
am it's almost like you can't believe
the journey like I talked about in that
[ __ ] VFW and I'm in the first chapter
of that book man I'm sitting in that
audience all those [ __ ] people and
I'm about to get the you know
americanism award and I was grinding so
hard I never took time to reflect in my
life and this was like time to reflect
and I was all kind of [ __ ] up I got on
stage man just [ __ ] cried for like 59
seconds
and it was such an emotional moment for
me that I [ __ ] that I [ __ ] did
what I did and I I overcame and it was
it was alone man you know a lot of
people have [ __ ] like teammates and
[ __ ] like you know family push my my
mom was struggling bro she was strug so
it was like me and my mom and so it's a
lot of just me so when you're waking up
every morning by yourself and you're
[ __ ] getting after by yourself and
and it's the it's the hidden work people
see one minute you know video of me
running and [ __ ] like and like these
Fighters you know they they see during
the fight or after the fight they don't
see these [ __ ] man what they
deal with every [ __ ] day I'm not good
enough I'm not good enough I shouldn't
be here I shouldn't be here because
every day even though they're [ __ ]
the best in the world that little
[ __ ] at seven or eight years old
is still in there saying oh man we we
don't have so we're not good enough
we're not we shouldn't be here so you're
always fighting that [ __ ] even
though you beat it you never truly beat
it so when they get on stage and talking
to Joe Rogan it's it's a it's not even
real it's not even real all those
mornings that you didn't want to [ __ ]
get up and and I look at it as like a
[ __ ] like a rock and you find this
[ __ ] rock and that rock is you and
every day you [ __ ] fight not wanting
to get up and you do anyway you chip
another piece off that [ __ ] rock and
every day you [ __ ] eat the right
foods and every day you go to train you
train harder and harder and harder and
harder and you get up earlier and all
these things you do to start forming
yourself you're chipping another [ __ ]
piece of that rock up before you know it
you have this beautiful [ __ ] piece of
of of of artwork that that you built but
people don't and then once you get there
you see it and it becomes real like oh
my God I [ __ ] did this [ __ ] and so
like the [ __ ] Journey becomes so real
then but so many people aren't willing
to [ __ ] chip away at that stone that
is them to start chipping off those
[ __ ] rough edges that's the fear the
fear is never reach ing your potential
that's it that always falling short
always quitting before you're done
always procrastinating always not doing
the right thing and then one day you're
an old man yep and you look back and go
God I could have been great yep I could
have been great I never forget one time
I was running by a graveyard and I was
[ __ ] just trying to become I was fat
and I ran by a graveyard and I looked
out there and I have all these
epiphanies man I have all these [ __ ]
moments of like
of it's crazy man of of this thought I'm
always by myself I'm always in deep
[ __ ] thought about how to be better I
look out there I'm like man I wonder how
many of you [ __ ] in there
[ __ ] just are so upset with how you
lived your life and [ __ ] just regret
how you lived it and I'm running at 300
pound man thinking
man don't [ __ ] die like this bro
don't die like this so people wonder
where this [ __ ] comes from from
me it comes from such deep thought of
trying to see what this is all about
what is this life all about what am I
all about why am I here you know I had
to I had to find purpose
and my suffering it had a purpose it had
a [ __ ]
purpose do you talk to other people that
are like you and try to understand if
they're going through the same thing are
they're trying to gather knowledge as
well are they just doing it because
they're addicted to Runner's High are
they doing it because they enjoy the
challenge like how many people do you
talk to that are like you I've never
talked to anyone that and most people
don't even believe what I say half the
time that I I I do it to [ __ ] gain
knowledge and all that [ __ ] I haven't
met one that goes out there people
really enjoy a lot of the [ __ ] that they
do like like they I don't know many
people can go out and run 240 miles at
one time if you don't enjoy
it if if you just don't don't really
enjoy it so you know I I
had many people build confidence
different ways and they build belief in
different ways coming from where I came
from I didn't have any belief in myself
so some people can go read a book and
get belief some people can go take a
yoga class have good parents I had to
put myself some where I came from was so
far down underneath like soil that I had
to build belief by truly ingraining it
in my brain so the things I do I'm
always every day building belief and my
belief had to be where it is because I
was so far down so it may take a 200
mile run for me it may take a 100 mile
run it may take late nights in the gym
but without belief you have nothing and
I realized that when I was a young kid I
have no belief I have to build it and a
fivemile run didn't do it I had to push
myself to such extremes because I came
from people judge me by not knowing
where I came
from so unless you're me and you came
from where I came from I guarantee you
would have made it out guarantee it and
I knew that so my belief comes from
going I had to build it and that's how I
build it man I build it by the things I
do it's so painful reading about your
childhood and the experiences with your
father and then when you went
back and met your father as an adult and
got with them and watched him get drunk
and then watch him get belligerent and
and experience it all over
again and then think about what happened
to him to make him who he is yeah that
[ __ ] me up dude but I had to go
like I realized I was [ __ ] I was I was
just a sorry [ __ ] you know I
quit peir rescue I spray the water every
time [ __ ] got hard like I said I didn't
have talent you know I I [ __ ] didn't
have [ __ ] and whenever [ __ ] got hard for
me I thought I was on my way out and and
I got suck back in I become I become a
loser again real quick and I see him all
the time there's a lot of [ __ ] losers
out here that won't face it I like oh
man gota go back and visit this
[ __ ] I I haven't seen my dad in
[ __ ] years man years but I knew where
I came from I knew where my mindset came
from I knew where my demons were so my
whole idea when I went back to see my
dad was I was hoping that I could just
[ __ ] call myself a losion it's
because of you Dad so I was hoping to go
back and get the confirmation that I
always wanted that wasn't my fault that
voice in my head was so loud it's not
your fault David it's not your fault you
can't read and write it's not your fault
that people call you [ __ ] [ __ ] it's
not your fault it's not your fault this
not your fault that it's not your fault
that you're fat it's not your fault that
you're that that you quit [ __ ] it's not
your fault so so I was like okay man I'm
going go back visit this [ __ ] so
I can just squash it and I can just go
on and be a [ __ ] loser cuz you [ __ ]
me up and when I got there went drove to
Buffalo saw my dad same routine as it
was when I was 8 years old man walked in
what's up went to Skate Land I sat on
that [ __ ] couch that he would cheat
on my mom with I sat on that couch in
the corner and I was like God what the
[ __ ] man and it was a whole normal day
and the more I was around him he started
now he started getting drunk and and I
won't go through the whole thing but I
started seeing man I started having a
convers I always have these
conversations with myself like man this
[ __ ] he came from
Hell his dad would put him in front of a
furnace and like if he moved he get
burnt so when when when my dad got
beat um his dad would put him from the
furnace and if he would have move he'd
[ __ ] get burnt up so my dad's had to
sit there and take it so he never dealt
with [ __ ] demons so his demons became
mine his demons became mine
[ __ ] think you die and and and
the demon goes with you man don't be a
[ __ ] fool bro you know like that's
why I'm proud of myself I took his
demons and mine and people are always
looking for some great [ __ ] apology
you know oh my God like um you know my
my dad need to say sorry people who
[ __ ] called you out your name or
nobody couldn't come back and say sorry
to you you [ __ ] ain't nobody
saying [ __ ] to you you better a [ __ ]
man the [ __ ] up so I looked at him he
didn't face his demons I'm going to face
mine so on that drive back home that's
what I started doing you know what's one
of the most most [ __ ] up things that
I've learned over time is that almost
all like truly exceptional and mentally
strong people have been through hell
it's it's very few that put themselves
through hell when life is great it's
just not usually the case right and to
to achieve the the the standards that
you've achieved to achieve the to become
the person that you are today and to
have the influence that you have this
Global influence on people do you how
many people have laced up their shoes
because they heard your voice how many
people have just moved into action and
changed their life because they've heard
you talk or seen you talk it's it's
there's a thing that happened and it
happened out of hell and I don't think
it ever happens without that it's like
you had to go through that in order to
empower all these other people in order
to become who you are and that as an
example and then your words as an
example and your describing of it and
then your description of your own
shortcomings and failures that give
people confidence that you it's not like
you're this superhuman person that is
like a character in a book right now
you're a real human being who has real
insecurities and real failur in your
past and and and real demons and you
figured out a way to harness that energy
and just keep going forward yep and not
quit that's it that's it I mean there
there are no timeouts you know people
like I you know there's a part in the
book that I talk about a prisoner mind
and that's about my
mother and you know she just um that's I
would never listen to that part again in
that book that was hard just so you know
man like I will never again listen to
that [ __ ] your mother's very very very
brave oh to be able to talk like that
yeah to be able
to to be able to talk like that um to
the world and
to to
just she lost her life she lost this
giant chunk of her life with this
abusive
man and to hear her talking about him
hitting her and what it was like and the
fact that she never came from a family
that hit her she had never been hit
before never and to to to have her
express it the way she did so honestly
and
openly very powerful and the whole time
she's talking man she's on the cusp of
like losing it like I'm in the other
room so I'm I'm interviewing her and I'm
hearing this [ __ ] so I I knew a lot
about it obviously I lived it and that's
what [ __ ] me up the most man when you
see like I said I wasn't a smart kid
growing up but who whatever made me
whatever the [ __ ] made me I'm so [ __ ]
my mind is sharp man like
it's it's crazy like I could I was so
aware of so much [ __ ] I was so bright in
that way and to see your mom go through
that [ __ ] as that young kid and like I
was going through it and she was going
through right beside me like when I got
my ass beat she got her ass beat it was
it's [ __ ] up man like you you you just
can't you know people you know people
like to judge who you are man why you
cuss so much man my life wasn't [ __ ]
PG
[ __ ] like you know you can't
just turn who the [ __ ] you are off when
you see your mom going that kind of [ __ ]
and then I'm coming to her defense at
seven or eight years old and she's
getting her [ __ ] ass beat by a 220 lb
man and I'm [ __ ] some little kid know
what kind of Courage it takes to Muster
that up to go help her out and to see
her [ __ ] up like that and the time she
would cry and be bruised up and [ __ ] it
was just it was a it was a [ __ ]
nightmare and then hear her talk about
it like the part where my dad says I
brought this belt from Texas this belt
came all the way from Texas whip your
ass with I it it was like what the like
where am I at right now cuz I knew no
other households right were [ __ ]
living like this man I and and I knew it
I knew it and then she was shut off she
was shut off from the world and when I
wrote can't hurt me she
refused she said [ __ ] don't put my [ __ ]
in there she was so embarrassed you know
like like I put in there man she [ __ ]
married a [ __ ]
prisoner so my mom was so [ __ ] up she
was so [ __ ] up by this [ __ ] and people
go people go man you're a mama's boy
[ __ ] I know mama's boy
man see your mom go through this [ __ ]
you're gonna make sure she's taken care
of
so she came out and one of the people
that you know she she got married a few
times CU she was looking for something
that my dad stripped from her and she
was out she was gone for years she just
now coming back she's 70s she's 75 and
but in that book I talk about man she's
like don't don't put that you know and
can't hurt me but now she's getting
better and she's allowing me more to
talk more about my life which was also
some of her life the part about marrying
a prisoner is so crazy dude it was a
[ __ ] but not just a prisoner but a
prisoner who killed a woman dude
this so it was so [ __ ] up it's hard
for me to talk about because it's almost
like it I was I had a front row seat at
a horror show
so when my mom left my dad she went to
wilmouth and he got murdered I talk
about that can't hurt me he got murdered
so that took her all the way over the
edge I mean he got shot [ __ ] six
times and the last shot this
[ __ ] got right up up on his head
and made sure he was dead like forehead
shot and so she didn't
cry she didn't cry she's loost it was
over she a whole another person became
and so I'm [ __ ] now like 12 13 14
what the [ __ ] I was I'm watching this
woman every day front row seat just
watching her just go through life [ __ ]
up and then I'm about to go in the
military into the Air
Force and like two years out man you
know I'm like a sophomore in high school
phone ringing every night she tell me
don't get on the phone don't get on the
phone don't get on the phone 15 minute
calls hang up 15minute call hang up
15minute call hang up what the [ __ ] is
going on but see the way I was grow like
the way I was raised you don't ask your
Mom what's going on it a like now like
conversations and [ __ ] with the parents
you shut the [ __ ] up and that's I didn't
ask [ __ ] but I knew something was [ __ ]
cuz like 3 four hours a night 15 minute
hang up cuz he was in prison this guy
was in prison so he only had 15 minutes
on the phone they had to put more money
in it how did she meet him she started
working so she was always about helping
people out but the thing about it
was like I was right in front of her and
needed so much [ __ ]
help and that it was [ __ ] up for me
for a long time but she helped out so
many people but I guess since I was with
her through the Journey I just I didn't
count but it's all good man it's what
life's about you got to understand what
your mom went through so that I can be
good with it you know like I saw that so
I I had to man up a lot more than what
so she saw people needed help so she
started teaching in the prison so she
had a full-time job at the at the Paul
University in Green Castle Indiana and
then she started teaching in a prison
and she met this prisoner this prisoner
obviously I don't know slitter or not or
some [ __ ] like that and you know she
was looking for anything she was looking
for anybody that loved her because my
dad beat the [ __ ] life out of her
and and my dad so my dad wouldn't marry
my mom but ended up marrying a woman
um that was tied to like I'm not even
gonna go there I'm not trying to get
[ __ ] sued and [ __ ] right now man but
he he married somebody that was [ __ ]
up that's [ __ ] up so anyway um she she
she met him in prison and um the phone
was ringing every night she didn't tell
me about it cuz how you can tell your
son
hey David I'm I'm I'm I'm in love with
the prisoner so before I go who murdered
the woman oh no I'm about to get to that
brother so I'm [ __ ] now about a week
out or whatever the [ __ ] was from
leaving for boot
camp and she lets me know what's
up and so I'm about to leave for boot
camp and I'm so protective of my mom and
she lays this on me yeah
um sit down let me have let's have a
talk and she never does this [ __ ] man
she's like there was nothing ever hidden
from me that's why I grew up so fast
like that abusive life and what she was
going through it was front and center
her her being broke everything this was
the only secret she kept from me she go
um those phone calls you know I've been
uh seeing someone in
prison all right cool whatever but I'm
thinking what the [ __ ] is this man so
you know I hated I didn't want to ask
how the [ __ ] did you get to
prison so I'm sitting there I'm sitting
there I'm sitting there and I'm like
okay man I got to [ __ ] ask this
[ __ ]
question how the [ __ ] you know what what
happened you know she's like
well does one of those things you know
cuz she knows it's [ __ ] bad well he
was in the drugs and stuff like that I'm
thinking okay maybe drug dealer
something like that he was in the drugs
that's for sure but he literally I don't
know how it went down but he choked a
woman to
death over some
drugs and I don't know the ins and outs
or all this other [ __ ] and
um that's who she was going to [ __ ]
be with and he was getting out of prison
literally in a few weeks after I was
going to Air Force boot camp Jes so I'm
in [ __ ] Air Force boot camp thinking
about my mom's about to [ __ ] marry a
[ __ ] dude who got sent to prison
marry him right away too right away
so the first time I meet this
[ __ ] dude is at my [ __ ] Air
Force graduation oh Jes my [ __ ] Air
Force graduation and she was like you
ain't putting that [ __ ] in can't hurt me
she was embarrassed about it and then
she saw how I went totally like [ __ ]
vulnerable and she was like [ __ ] it go
ahead so there's there's so much more to
it but he ended up um uh I think it was
last year or maybe this year he ow
so my mom divorced him obviously after
it it it it didn't work out and she was
telling me a story one time we were
talking about this book she started
opening more up about the
relationship with this uh with this
prisoner and she said one night they got
into a fight you know not not physical
you know he never hit her like like my
dad did so many times but he said one
night she was sleeping and had had her
back to him and all she thought about
all [ __ ] night was because she
started
slowly realizing like I'm [ __ ] up like
I just married a [ __ ] guy from prison
that killed somebody and she started
realizing it more and more but she's
laying in bed and she and she was like
is this [ __ ] gonna [ __ ] kill
me
tonight and she started telling me these
[ __ ] stories man and I'm
like and I'm just like what the [ __ ] man
like like you know it's it's it was
tough it was it was it was a tough way
to grow up man it was tough tough way to
grow up so yeah he ended up um so they
got divorced uh I think it work maybe
two years where the [ __ ] it was whatever
it doesn't matter and then um I think he
ODed last year he OD last year killed
himself I don't he killed himself he's
OD
so the the idea of you going off to boot
camp knowing that your mom's going to be
alone with this guy getting out of
prison yeah that [ __ ] must have been
haunting yeah [ __ ] up every night oh my
God every night I'm I'm I'm sitting in
the [ __ ] in my bunk thinking and then
I I I knew the date he was getting out
of prison and like you know you can't
just get on the phone and call hey Mom
what's going on you know no you're in
boot camp you get like every now and
then they say okay you have like a phone
call once a week or some [ __ ] I think
every Sunday was a phone
call and I'll never forget when he got
to the house man I actually
got I was [ __ ] not right so I got
recycled so a week in boot camp so like
I [ __ ] I don't know what I [ __ ]
did something in boot camp and [ __ ]
got recycled had like I was sneaking the
Snickers bars I was just all kind of
belligerant and [ __ ] I was just out of
it I I was I was sneaking out and this
[ __ ] I was just [ __ ] not right I
was wasn't right and so then I um yeah
that's it was [ __ ] up it's it's [ __ ]
up what was it like when you met
him I try to be supportive cuz that's
what I always did my mom whatever made
her happy I try to that that was my
[ __ ] number one priority was I I
never cared about myself never never
ever which makes what I do now for
people I I
understand because I care about people
even though I'm an introvert I'm an
introvert because my [ __ ] life
sucked but what I do for people I really
do that's why I want to make sure that
[ __ ] like that that [ __ ] book and
things I do that's why I don't [ __ ]
like why don't you sell [ __ ] why don't
you always you know why aren't you like
promoting this and that and no man no I
care that you understand that I [ __ ]
want to see you [ __ ] kill
[ __ ] I want to see you better so you
know when I met him I was supportive and
I was and I sat back and looked at him
and I wanted to [ __ ] beat this
[ __ ] down so bad because I knew
like you're not a good egg bro you're
not a good egg man I'm not saying yeah I
mean you know I'm not saying prisoners
are B
they can be re
rehabilitated but I always had these
feelings about people if I get around
you I can [ __ ] I I may not tell you
but when you grow up the way I grow up
man you have this you have these ways of
knowing pieces of [ __ ] I became an
expert in pieces of [ __ ] I used to be
one my dad was one so you can [ __ ]
pick him out you can pick out liars and
all kind of K artists from from a mile
away cuz [ __ ] I studied it
studied myself I know who you are so you
can't come around me bullshitting me man
can't right
so it's just it was horrible it was
horrible so you know like the the one
woman I cared about more than anything
in the world cuz I saw her hell I'm
looking at this [ __ ] now and now I'm
have to go to [ __ ] PA rescue school
and all this other [ __ ] while she's
[ __ ] with this guy so there are a lot
of things in my mind that that just made
hard that I studied I studied my mind
during these times I started and this
this process to become who am today of
learning life and how hard life is
that's why I don't speak about the good
times everybody gets so mad why don't
you speak about the good times I don't
need to help you through those brother I
do not need to help you you don't turn
on David Goggins to for the good times
you turn on David Goggins when you don't
feel like doing [ __ ] you're an expert in
dark matter dark [ __ ] matter
that's what I am so yeah I know it
really well so it wasn't like I wished
for it one of the things that's
hilarious in the book is that
you you read all the [ __ ] that people
write to you all the
hate and you record it and then you play
it back brother I'm G to tell you right
now man that started honestly when this
[ __ ] seal from SEAL Team
Six came out and started lying his
[ __ ] ass off about me this is an
important subject we should talk about
this cuz your military career and the
what you've done is always
misrepresented oh yeah even by people
that should know better oh yeah oh they
know better but what what makes people
feel good like when when you become
successful when you become successful
and I had to realize this and this guy
made me realize this
I had to study them when you become
successful especially within a
fraternity like that like this is this
is a fraternity bro this isn't like a
[ __ ] like oh like in the Air Force
you know it was this is a very different
world so several seals no I'm going to
say there's a lot that would like to see
me [ __ ] a lot they like to see a lot
of people not do well and them do great
yeah and like they all know we eat our
own we eat our own and that's what they
all say we eat our own is that all seals
I don't know all seals a lot of seals I
can't speak that way I know a few seals
is it just the hyper competitive nature
of the type of people to get involved
yeah it's like you know we have this
this uh this this this mcho
stigma that you know like you know we're
we're the best of the best we're [ __ ]
we're we're we're the bad [ __ ]
in the world and and I I beg to differ
you know like people go like I've had so
many people in art like the news
oh my God they contact me all they want
me so bad cuz there's been some things
that came up you know the Navy SE
Community um this this guy died this
this kid going through training died and
some Navy Seals I don't know the stories
they can Google it where the [ __ ] I
guess they kill somebody over in Iraq
who has some information some [ __ ] so
they always want to get me on so I can
[ __ ] because they know that I was not a
fan of a lot of Navy SEALs and a lot of
it is to do of with the lies the [ __ ]
some of the leadership problems some of
the character issues and I got to see
that a lot when I got out and I'm the
one to say it I had a lot of problems
myself when I was growing up and it took
a long time for me go so I'm not judging
these people I know where the [ __ ] comes
from man the [ __ ] comes from [ __ ] you
haven't handled so I it doesn't even
bother me anymore but when I came
out um in 2018
this this still from still Team Six he
had and Jennifer it pissed Jennifer off
so [ __ ] bad and I was cool about it
but this guy started YouTube channels
saying that I was dishonestly discharged
I [ __ ] was kicked out of the SEAL
Teams I um I refused to fight in combat
I never went to combat I mean every bit
of it so the reason why in my and can't
hurt me I have my write up of my metal
from
Iraq and I wasn't going to put that in
there but Jennifer started getting DMS
from people saying do you know I'm not
I'm not even going to name his name
that's not who I am dude and I just
showed you outside about that one cat
yeah I'm not gonna name his name either
but I'm not going to name his name
because how does he not know better
though that's the the the that was one
of the things that people bring up that
you never deployed right yep why would
they say that why you think Joe think
about it man think about it see like
this the thing but that's something
that's easily proven exactly but guess
what this guy had Black Ops literally he
was he was he had like YouTube channels
dming people because people like at this
time I started getting a little bigger I
started getting a little more profile
and he was coming out of the SEAL Teams
I'm not gonna say his name because I'm
not going to try to take food out of his
mouth and this is one thing I learned
from all of this I had this I was so
[ __ ] pissed man I was so [ __ ]
pissed I didn't deploy I mean the
[ __ ] lies were insane how many times
did you deploy twice one to Guam and one
to Iraq and then what they don't talk
about though is the reason I didn't
deploy more is I had two heart
surgeries so I was out of the [ __ ]
teams for deploying for like three four
years because the heart surgeries
because when you get a heart Sur you
can't go back to deploy you were born
with like holes in your heart right with
a hole in my heart and the first surgery
it didn't you know it didn't take try to
get another surgery so that took so much
time having these heart surgeries so I
was in um recruiting at the time so this
kept me in recruiting so this even added
to the whole [ __ ] this added to the
whole [ __ ] so they were loving it
because right now like I said I wouldn't
like the most famous seal within the
SEAL
Teams I didn't take [ __ ] man it [ __ ] was
[ __ ] up I called it I called it
there's there's no secret there there's
no secret [ __ ] here man and and and I
knew what happened when I when I got out
and this guy started doing this [ __ ] and
I I knew why he was doing it because the
biggest thing like he wanted to take my
character and destroy it right that's
all he wanted to do and so when you're
in these kind of communities like this
man people like oh no there's no way he
was trying to do that man I wish I can
get Jennifer here right now we have all
the screenshots and I had to get a
[ __ ]
lawyer I mean this guy went so far and
then what happened was over a period of
time he [ __ ]
literally apologized went away [ __ ]
took all this [ __ ] down I mean but he
came out and but what happened was that
rumor mill spread like wildfire did he
have to know did he have to be told
about your actual record no he knew
never I deployed with him what I
deployed with him in Iraq no in Iraq he
was just lying in Iraq I deployed with
him in the only [ __ ] see man you got get
me to the point where I say his [ __ ]
name because I swear to God so I
deployed with his ass that's why I put
the [ __ ] right up in there so I got a
medal over there in Iraq I got a medal
in Iraq so I did go to war and I put it
in the book Because when because
Jennifer started getting all this [ __ ]
and she goes you got to put that [ __ ]
award in there because this [ __ ]
is just ly his ass off I didn't go to
Ranger school all this [ __ ] so I put the
Ranger school everything he said
I put in can't hurt me because he was
just literally lying trying to literally
ruin who I was cuz I'm the world's
toughest man that doesn't sit right with
some [ __ ] Alpha [ __ ] dude
and these [ __ ] dude some of
them and you don't know unless you've
been in the fraternity like this unless
you've been in the fraternity like this
you don't [ __ ] know I don't [ __ ]
care about them there's some I some
great friends in there but anyway the
reason this guy actually helped me out
so when I came out there's a few guys in
that came after me in the seel teams
trying to make sure that I [ __ ]
wasn't going to be who I am and they
still talk their [ __ ] lies
lies so many [ __ ] lies dude and
what's great about is my proof isn't
can't hurt me so everything they say my
proof is in and that's why it's designed
that way for the Liars but this guy came
out and what I do is I studied him so
Jennifer goty lawyer I'm about to sue
the [ __ ] out of this [ __ ] guy man
like I had all this defamation I mean it
was [ __ ] a thick I was going to sue
the [ __ ] out of him and every night I
[ __ ] woke
up I was like man I started think about
myself when I was a piece of [ __ ] when I
had no character when I had no pride no
dignity that's CU only people that do
[ __ ] like that you're not a man right
you're no [ __ ] man dude like I start
thinking about what kind of [ __ ] you
are man what how you must have so many
[ __ ] demons in your life that you
spend this kind of time just trying to
take another man just trying to take
another man and not
I it'd be different if it was truth
behind it right lies [ __ ] lies yeah
just because we didn't get along
[ __ ] it don't mean I wasn't who
I am we didn't get along [ __ ]
cuz I [ __ ] I'm like a lie detector
cuz I'm so [ __ ] honest with myself I
had such a hard time in my life that I
[ __ ] so forthright when you get even
near
me cuz I [ __ ] you know my [ __ ] is
real it's [ __ ] real as [ __ ] it makes
you feel bad
if you got something going on in your
[ __ ] life I Ain open my [ __ ] mouth
you know my [ __ ] is [ __ ] real yeah I
may not deployed as many times you
[ __ ] because my heart issues and
the other issues that I won't talk about
cuz the [ __ ] news wants me to [ __ ]
talk about this [ __ ] so bad they want to
take some Ste down so bad I ain't no
[ __ ] like that whatever happened to se
teams with me it happened to SEAL Teams
that's why I don't [ __ ] mention the
names but I saw these little [ __ ]
come out here it was in the fraternity
it happened in the fraternity leave it
there don't be a [ __ ] [ __ ] come out
here [ __ ] spreading lies about me
[ __ ] but I studied all these
little [ __ ] who try to come out and
ruin my life studied all of them like
man what you must be going through is
[ __ ] evil I even took a step further
I had to mature myself because I was so
[ __ ] mad and I looked at his family
this guy who was talking this [ __ ] I G
to say his name so bad but I never will
because that's a [ __ ] [ __ ] move on
my
part you can take food out of this
[ __ ] his family's mouth
you're G to have this guy in the
courthouse you have him in the courtroom
spending money on
lawyers and I [ __ ] just [ __ ]
dropped it I said I'm good I said I know
who the [ __ ] I am I said you can wake up
every [ __ ] morning being the [ __ ]
that you are but I'm not going to
[ __ ] take money out of your pocket
and money out of your mouth out of your
[ __ ] kids kids mouth and this kid
this guy wound up apologizing to you he
didn't apologized to me what happened
was he got on and I don't want to go too
deep because they will figure it out
but um he ended up basically saying he's
he had a
[ __ ] he he just wasn't he wasn't
right in his head he was he was you know
he wasn't good I and I can tell he
wasn't good because he was literally
dming people and I I wish I had Jennifer
in here man so she can show you the DMS
he was deeming people and talking all
this [ __ ] and then he would delete it
and this guy H how so so so Jennifer
found it and so cuz this guy dm'
Jennifer and was like um hey can you do
you do you know this guy and I was like
yeah I know him and then J was like Hey
we got to [ __ ] shut this [ __ ] down
but he was DM and several people just
saying that I was dis AR be discharged I
was kicked out of the SEAL Teams I
refused to go to combat um he just went
on and on and on and so this guy was
taking screenshots of what of what this
guy was saying and sending them to us
and so at this time now we have a lawyer
and so we're were getting all this [ __ ]
dude and then he had a YouTube site
setup that he took down just trying to
literally ruin who I was and I looked at
all this [ __ ] and I studied them I was
like man you got and what came out later
on was he did have some demons he does
have some Demons of course he does
serious demons that's how insane it is
that the guy deployed with you SEAL Team
Six and these [ __ ] supposed to
be bass [ __ ] see this is this is
some of the issues I had when I was in
is that when you work so hard
man I put these [ __ ] like I
talked about last time I was on this
[ __ ] [ __ ] on a pedestal half the
reason I ran on broken legs half the
reason why I [ __ ] became who I became
was because of the the
image these guys had on me I was so
impressed with the books and the [ __ ]
and the and the and the people that they
were I was like my God man I got to be a
[ __ ] God I got to be a god mentally
to [ __ ] get in here and once I got in
I discovered something different I'm not
saying that I'm not saying everybody I'm
not I don't know everybody in the seel
teams but I had a problem with the fact
that a lot of people lived
this this [ __ ] like a lot of the
civilians like oh my God the seals are
this the seals are that you were able to
run badwater 135 because you're a Navy
SEAL and because they like no
[ __ ] that ain't why and I always
knew the [ __ ] and I had issues with it
man I had issues with it so I had a
[ __ ] I had issues with it a lot of
people didn't like that and then I went
on to go and recruiting for a little bit
and then the heart surgeries happened so
the more I was in recruiting the more I
was that [ __ ] happened they just started
slowly building up lies slowly building
up lies and I came out to I was I told
Jennifer I and I knew it I said
standby stand by it's coming whenever
you're a person that gets
what other people think is attention
that they think they deserve yes sir
that's when things get weird oh yeah
that's why they bring those [ __ ]
deployments because they think oh my God
you didn't deploy as much as me you
didn't deploy as much as me he was this
he's not known for being for for
deploying and [ __ ] yeah [ __ ]
don't care yeah I have I have a combat
deployment and I deployed another time
that we were supposed to it was right
during 9/11 we were supposed to go and
they [ __ ] had us over in Guam we were
all pissed off didn't work out that way
but I got over there and what's funny
about it this is this is what makes me
laugh so much there's a lot of Navy C
who never deployed over combat ever
ever and it makes me laugh because
[ __ ] want to act like one
combat deployment where I fought for my
[ __ ] country it's
[ __ ] think about that fought from my
[ __ ] country did my [ __ ] sorry it
worked out the way it worked out
and that's that's a that's not enough I
think it part part of the problem with
some of those guys is when guys are
seriously Alpha and they think they go
above and beyond and they push harder
than anybody and then they meet you and
you're the guy that's getting up at
in the morning yelling at them while
you're running like I know you're
sleeping I know you're still in bed
[ __ ] I'm out here running 10
miles before you eat breakfast that's
half the reason I did it yeah that's
half the reason that [ __ ] going
to [ __ ] halisco and [ __ ] getting
waffle breakfast and [ __ ] bacing and
eggs [ __ ] that bothered me I said
[ __ ] I got my family and
everybody thinking I'm some [ __ ] stud
and you all just got to [ __ ] lift
some weights y'all don't want to [ __ ]
like I said I was in charge of PT and
they're like Noah this ain't buzz goggin
like man you got a lot of [ __ ]
food this ain't everybody I don't know
every seal I don't know every seal but
you want to run your [ __ ] mouth about
me and talk your little [ __ ] I got my
secrets too and I won't say names cuz
only a [ __ ] does that so keep on
running your [ __ ] mouths I know all
you [ __ ] so you started taking
over PT yeah I was so when I got back so
I went on my first deployment and when I
came back off my first deployment I
begged put seven chits in seven chits
it's like a request chit to go to Ranger
school [ __ ] don't request to go
to Ranger school I wanted to go to
Ranger school as a seal you went through
buds whatever the [ __ ] you don't want to
go to another course to get your ass
kicked I did I did so much Ranger school
came back honor man I was the enlisted
honor man at Ranger school but they say
I'm a bad operator they also say I'm a
bad operator but guess what they had my
black ass when I was [ __ ] in Iraq I
was chared it's called PSD okay so
you're like a bodyguard I'm a bad
operator Joe but guess where I was I was
the lead
Navigator so I'm the eyes so everything
we did was in the
car it was my job to make sure that
whole [ __ ] platoon was
safe okay you're not going to put a dumb
bad operator up there who's [ __ ] not
good it's my job to make sure I called
all the outs called all the trouble
coming had to get us there safe we had
the [ __ ] guy who was going for the
prime minister's job who we a garden and
they had a bad operator what they want
to call me they want to say the little
[ __ ] rumors I was the guy who let it
and it was so good I did such a good job
that there's two of us cuz the job's
very stressful being a primary Navigator
stressful so they have a primary and a
secondary so some days I would do it
some days another guy would do it I was
doing such a good job Joe that they
didn't want the other guy to do it so I
became the only guy navigating us
through [ __ ] Iraq all right and our
guy didn't live in the green zone the
green zone is a safe place our guy lived
in the red zone so we had to go out in
the Red Zone every day to get this
[ __ ] guy bring it back in no there
was no shoot him UPS cuz this one one
rumor that was out there that came out
from this guy was I
froze I froze in a firefight it's kind
of funny how you can freeze in a
firefight when oure was never in
morning so it's just just [ __ ] man
but I know where it comes from I know
where it comes from crabs in a bucket I
know where it comes from my friend it's
just crabs in a bucket that's it sorry
sorry I became so successful guys that's
what it is people don't like it when you
did the same thing they did you come
from the same fraternity but you get
exort exorbitant amounts of attention
and success oh yeah and instead of
looking at that and going wow look what
he did that's amazing I wish I did that
or maybe I could do more or he's
inspiring other people and that's great
you know what though I will say this
there's a there's a lot of them that do
say that that's great there's a lot of
them that do say this I have a guy named
Hawk you know that that email I sent to
you a while ago about this guy who wrote
that email about the SEAL Teams and I
shared it with you you about he's
talking about like only 133% of you
actually it's like anyway I sent email
remember so anyway he's a guy that sent
that email Hawk he's like my best friend
so he uh bad [ __ ] when he when
he got out of SE teams he wrote this
email and sent out to like every Navy SE
and it was like 87% of you [ __ ]
he said 87% of you [ __ ] you
know are are living off of one week and
what he was talking about was hell week
like that one week in hell week is all
they're living off of cuz they're not
living it now and he made these shirts
called the 133% shirts and the other
133% guys are actually getting after it
that [ __ ] sent me two of
them all right he sent me two of them so
yeah they're right I wish I could have
deployed more and blah blah blah
whatever and whatever man but I was I
was a [ __ ] good seal and [ __ ] good
teammate and some guys didn't like me
and in the fraternity [ __ ] had it out
and there's a time somebody [ __ ] did
some [ __ ] but is what it is man you ever
heard uh when people talk about some
Union work one of the things that
happens when you're in some unions is
like if you're working too hard someone
will come along go hey David slow the
[ __ ]
down Bad true statement like you're
moving too many packages you're doing
too much of this to too much of that
you're setting the standard too high and
you're [ __ ] it up for everybody else
and so you'll have people that will
sabotage someone mhm just because that
person
wants to work hard oh I see it but it
made me grow it made me grow and I and
I'm glad I didn't put a case on that guy
and I'm glad I got a chance to study him
and it is what it is man it is what it
is and this is one part that I try to
tell people and teach them if you're
trying to go to that uncommon amongst
the uncommon place it's a lonely
[ __ ] up there man it's lonely
I'm not saying I'm better than every
[ __ ] body I'm not saying that and
once again I'm not speaking for every
seal I'm not but I just didn't I didn't
try to be what they were what you're
just saying is just a fact it's just a
fact man it's just a fact and there
there's people that are willing to go
very far and then there's people that
are willing to go far further than them
that's it and when your person who
prides yourself on your ability to go
very far and then someone is willing to
go far farther than you you have to
decide do I want to look at that as the
new standard do I want to judge myself
do I want to admire him or do I want to
try to take him down because I feel bad
because I can't do what he does or
haven't done what he does or what he
does makes me look bad because I like to
think I'm a hard worker I like to think
I'm disciplined and hard and then I see
this [ __ ] dude out there that just
making me look soft right and so instead
of just going look at him man [ __ ] yeah
right instead of a smart person would
look at that person as fuel but you have
to make your own decisions too because
you do
requires a dedication that will
eliminate a lot of things from your life
that some people enjoy and think are
important dude and also when you when I
took the road cuz I knew what I was
doing when you when you take that road
and you just don't want to just fit in
it's a lonely road it's a lonely road
and you get a lot of haters man and like
I tell people all the time
man if I can walk on water [ __ ]
would say because I couldn't swim
tell that right the [ __ ] now yeah tell
that right now and and this is a true
statement I used to get so mad like I
said about this [ __ ] [ __ ] man but I
sat back one day I was like you know
what all these people hating on me man
like I have a guy who's trying to who's
trying to write a book saying that I was
telling people he's a famous author like
I'll never drop names dude I'm not
trying to hurt your business but you're
funny these people are funny keep on
talking your [ __ ] I will absorb it and
make a mixtape out of your [ __ ] ass
like I do he tried to tell he he was
going to write book that I was telling
people to run until your kidneys got
[ __ ] up that my mentality of running
is is I was telling people I was telling
people to run into your kidneys got
[ __ ] up to run until you get wbed up
run until you get wbed up that's he was
going to he's going to write a book and
the premise was the way I think compared
to the way he thinks I never told a
[ __ ] in my
life I tell you to do better and go as
far as you can I don't tell you to go
until you [ __ ] kill yourself until
you get rabo but I will tell you this
Joe you will never never in
life meet a hater doing better than you
that's a fact ever so when I [ __ ]
realize that and Jennifer gets so mad at
the lies she hears and this and that
because it comes all through they spew
it yeah I told Jennifer that [ __ ] man
stop yeah [ __ ] calm down bro don't
stop sending me that [ __ ] 100% factual
there's there we were we were talking
about in the bathroom earlier I was like
you got a amount of bandwidth in your
mind yep whatever that those units are
let called a hundred hundred of of those
things in your mind the moment you start
entertaining haters you start reading
comments you're stealing your bandwidth
that you could apply to your loved ones
that you could apply to the thing that
you love to do that you could apply to
making your life better you're stealing
from yourself when you pay attention
like I was talking about clearing that
space out yeah and that space allows you
to make more room for what's important
in your life yeah if your mind's still
clutter man you can't do [ __ ] there's
also a thing about you being a public
person being a public person now you
have access to way more haters than the
the
average the average person knows a few
haters maybe if you're a good-look woman
and you got some [ __ ] in the office
like to talk [ __ ] about you or if you're
a guy who's like you know getting after
it early and being disciplined and you
you you make people intimidated by your
ambition you're going to have some
haters you're going to be people lying
about you there's going to be but you
have no idea what it's like to be a
public person like
yourself and the kind of haters that you
must experience because if you paid
attention to them all day long you would
have no time for anything else no I
never get in 2013 when I was first you
know Jennifer knows about this [ __ ] I
cussed everybody we had this [ __ ]
round table and every was like man he
have such a great story you need to tell
it you need to get on social media and
blah blah blah I cussed everybody out
[ __ ] you I'm not [ __ ] going on that
[ __ ] [ __ ] that's a bunch of [ __ ]
[ __ ] lying it's it's the
devil and the second I [ __ ] got on
that [ __ ] dude it is the [ __ ] devil
Instagram and social media man I had
this [ __ ] kid man who [ __ ]
literally the reason I talk about haters
so much is this little boy his parents
reached out to me and he was getting so
much hate at school and we get so many
emails I can't check them all and but I
get to them but later on much like two
or three months later so this guy wrote
us and this kid was having a hard time
with bullies and when I got to his email
I got to it called his family up said
hey what's going on you know David Gaga
they were all happy to hear it he had
killed
himself so
like I in the back of my [ __ ] mind
and what hurt me the most was when I
read the [ __ ]
email and uh Oho [ __ ] I get my [ __ ]
together I wasn't gonna bring this [ __ ]
up I I I I read the email and they said
he can you know you can help her son
know our son really admires you that's
why I um I'm so I'm I'm I'm I'm very
vocal for a lot of
reasons but I have to be strong because
I know a lot of people aren't so you
know that's why don't cower from [ __ ]
you know at all you want to [ __ ] you
know I've I'll take on whatever whatever
challenge is in front of me I take it on
because a lot of people don't have that
that courage and it's hard to be brave
it's [ __ ] hard to speak up for what
you believe in and they they wrote this
great email to me and they want me to
talk to their son son was a big follower
of mine and he uh so I called he's like
yeah and it was a silent a very silent
um
pause and they told me what happened and
um he hung himself and I was like it was
[ __ ] up so you know that's why another
reason I hate I hate being a public
figure because it's not a public figure
that I am like it's funny um I hang
around some people who are real public
figures you know like
celebrities and I have people coming to
me first like I'm talking of famous
[ __ ] and people come to me me
first and and they want to share their
story in their life with me about how
they changed and that's a massive
responsibility that people don't
understand
like um when they come to you and they
share the demons that they've gone
through and and the hard [ __ ] the
hardships that they've gone through and
um and they say you and your book and
and what you've done and your social
media page that's why I make sure I want
to go at people so hard Joe sometimes
man for [ __ ] talking their [ __ ] to me
man and lying [ __ ] I make sure that my
social media only has like let's let's
[ __ ] get it today let's [ __ ] let's
[ __ ] get they go man why don't you
follow anybody man I'm not into that
[ __ ] dude I I I want you [ __ ] to
understand dude I'm your biggest [ __ ]
for for you who don't who aren't
bitching and whining and complaining I'm
your biggest [ __ ]
cheerleader I want to see you do great I
I want to see do great and a lot of that
[ __ ] comes from that [ __ ] email from
that kid who killed himself that I got
to like two or three months too late and
that [ __ ] [ __ ] every day I [ __ ]
wake up I'm like [ __ ] man [ __ ] I gotta
be honest I gota be right I gota be
better and that's that's when you know
that when when you're trying to do your
best your life sucks and people don't
get that when you're trying to have the
best character when you're trying not to
[ __ ] lie and you're trying not to
[ __ ] put people down and you're
trying to live you're trying to set the
standard when you're trying to be the
standard and that standard is I you know
there's so much going wrong and going
off in this world that if people can
focus on themselves being better versus
throwing hate and [ __ ] all this [ __ ]
that happens out there and people
talking [ __ ] running that's why I won't
mention no [ __ ] names not
trying to hurt you man but I'm trying to
be the standard and sometimes life is
just not fun when you're like can't do
that can't say that gota watch out for
that yeah I I gotta wake up today I
gotta I gotta grind because there may be
a [ __ ] out there that sees me in
their [ __ ] car that says all right
I'm going to go home and be better today
so all these things are in my [ __ ]
mind every [ __ ] day I wake up every
[ __ ] day and I you know so you know I
try to get to emails I it's it's me and
Jennifer and but yeah you know people
[ __ ] it's it's crazy man people come
to me tell me their stories man it's
[ __ ] very humbling that this kid that
came from [ __ ] nothing is now helping
people who you know like you know know
it's is funny and people call me crazy a
lot man you're so [ __ ] crazy but what
you do I look at him straight in the eye
and I say man I'm not crazy I'm just not
you I'm just not who you are who you
want to be I have a responsibility man
and I gotta [ __ ] take that seriously
well people like to look at people that
are pushing further than them and harder
than them like there's something wrong
with you yep you must be crazy got be
crazy gota be crazy I love crazy though
my favorite people are crazy
yes you know but I don't I don't look at
it as a negative I look at it as a
strength it is I I see a person who's
willing to go to that dark matter place
I go oh I like that oh yeah I like that
but you went there during sober October
man you went there you went there so
how' that feel man when you [ __ ] were
going into those Journeys into those
compartments well what I like about it
is that you had to do it every day you
know and so I just every day would you
know know it was coming go hey all right
here we go time to get going and every
day just get after it in some crazy way
one of my favorite things is the thing
that I hate the most it's airdine
Sprints I do those Tabata sprints on the
airdine machine oh the [ __ ] Echo Bike
yeah the Echo Bike from Rogue 20 second
Sprints 10 second rest 20 second do
cycles of eight so eight rounds of that
and then I would do another one and
another one and another one I was doing
an hour at that that's [ __ ] brutal
so hard but it but when it was done I'm
standing in a puddle I'm completely
drenched but that feeling of getting
through this cu the last Cycles when
you're doing like and you look like cuz
the Rogue bike will show you like you've
done three which means you have to you
have to do five more of these Sprints
and that 10 seconds just non-existent
she
like and then tekken's
like it's it's so quick and then you're
back at it again those last ones are so
hard but when you get through it the
rest of the day is so much better that's
like fight training man because the
month of November all I've been doing is
drinking really oh man I've been working
out still working out but we're doing a
lot of drinking and I'm like this I got
to stop so I woke up today because
today's December 1st I'm like I'm not
drinking this month I'll have a glass of
wine on Christmas or something like that
but this month I'm back to the Grind are
you cuz yeah yeah cuz I enjoyed October
this
suck when it's over it's life is better
well you know you just got to get
through the suck that's right and then
life is better but the thing that gets
me is the level of I don't give a [ __ ]
and anxi the less the the lack of
anxiety that comes after you work out
every day is so worth the workout you're
so calm so calm the only thing that
changes your [ __ ]
DNA is discipline yes dis the only thing
that changes your DNA man is the only
thing only thing man you could be
[ __ ] so [ __ ] up and I realized that
man I was like man the only thing that
changeed my DNA is discipline know what
I'm saying I've Incorporated a new thing
that I was telling you where I get up
first thing in the morning I get in the
cold plunge cuz I was doing the cold
plunge after I did the sauna and it's a
little easier cuz the sauna sucks right
but you know when that 20 minutes is up
or 25 minutes is up and then you get in
that cold the cold sucks but it doesn't
suck suck as much as when you're cold
and then you get in the cold so when I
wake up in the morning I don't dress
warm I wear my [ __ ] underwear and I
go outside and it's 40° this morning and
I walk out and I lift the lid on that
morosgo cold plunge and I see the
[ __ ] ice floating up in there and
every day I climb in that's brutal and I
just get in there for 3 minutes in the
morning and then I work out that's
[ __ ] brutal because I read this thing
um I'll send it to you Jamie but I read
this thing where uh they've been doing
studies on what happens to people Andrew
huberman and I actually discussed this
and huberman's a very interesting guy
but um it's about the benefits of cold
plunge before you
actually work out really yeah cuz
there's a benefit after you work out in
terms of reduction of inflammation but
what they're saying is you shouldn't do
it right after you lift weights got it
got it because then Muses yeah it it
actually decreases the hypertrophy so
you don't gain as much mass or gain as
much strength but there's some benefit
to doing it before you work out I think
there's a a link involved in that
too so anyway this is a
guy uh who's talking about prostate
specific antigen blood te test came back
uh very high and everyone said that he
had to get a biopsy and he said the
story I've heard about old older men
getting biopsies in prostate ectomies
sounded like nightmares to him so he
decided to try to manage his PSA with
ketosis and Ice baths so it worked his
PSA dropped from over seven to less than
one and along the way a funny thing
happened to his testosterone it went
through the roof to 1140 which is crazy
high his he said my urologist didn't
believe me he thought I must be juicing
so he had my luteinizing hor hormones
tested 2 sure enough 8.9 is off the
charts for a fat guy in his 50s he said
then I did a research and I discovered a
Japanese study from 1991 that showed the
secret was exercising after your ice
bath it's the opposite of what everybody
says to do which is exactly how I got
this far in the first place he said now
I'm stuck with the tea levels of an
oversex 19yearold I'm not complaining
damn but so this is the thing that um
people realizing now there's some
extreme benefit to
heavyduty S here this extreme benefit to
heavy duty cold exposure right and then
you force your body to heat up and then
you work
out there so so you know I'm trying that
now and I've only done it three days in
a row well how's it working it's working
it's hard but the the the but part of it
is just the the fact that you have to do
it in the like I'm not giving myself any
mornings off so I have that's how I
start my day now whereas before I was
working out so the workout I ease myself
into the workout get on the bike warm up
jump a little rope start the kettle bell
routine do all the things you got to do
but now it's just right into the suck so
it's it's harder I tell you right now
man the [ __ ] cold being in cold water
cold ice water it literally is the one
thing that makes you question everything
when you're going through hard training
and [ __ ] like that
you know I've been through a lot of
different training the military and that
cold water it definitely many dreams die
while
suffering that should be a t-shirt many
dreams die while suffering my friend
that's so true I talk about it man like
this this [ __ ] guys getting that
water and you see their [ __ ] eyes
roll back and I'm like oh yeah many
dreams die while suffering friend yeah
[ __ ] I was trying to talk to Jamie about
it Jamie it's [ __ ] cold
I'll do cold it's just like there's a
level of cold I want to ease myself into
it I don't want to just start in the
worst that might be the best way to do
it Jamie yeah that's what tell got jump
in that I did I just I just couldn't go
like below my
knees
yeah there man hey man once that pecker
gets cold boy it's real I know I know
yeah it's all real I go right up to the
chin I want that water right there oh
that's legit right there man if it's
real legit you go under Hicks and Gracie
he puts a snorkel on really yeah Hixon
gets in that water for a couple minutes
under the water with the snorkel on he
likes that [ __ ] huh Hixon hixon's an
intense [ __ ] So speaking of that
who's the best ever oh the best ever in
MMA ever an MMA it's hard to say there's
a lot of candidates you know I've always
said Mighty Mouse is one of my Best Bets
CU he was so goddamn good and he's still
so godamn good now but now he's fighting
in one FC but he was a flyweight
Champion for a long time and his he was
the highest level of expression of mixed
martial arts ability that I'd ever seen
but he's also fighting guys that are
much lighter they're 125 pounds you know
everyone's very quick but he was just so
skillful but then there's Jon Jones Jon
Jones really never lost that's a nasty
[ __ ] he's a nasty [ __ ]
and you know really Jon Jones [ __ ] off
you want to talk about a guy who just
did it by talent and will
Jon Jones beat Alexander Guston without
training unbeli basically didn't train
there's a few guys like that there's a
guy named Ryan span who's out there
right now who just [ __ ] up Dominic
Reyes and Dominic Reyes was the one guy
who took Jon Jones to the Limit Dominic
Reyes uh went on a series of losses
after that fight but he had this fight
with Jon Jones and took Jon Jones to the
[ __ ] limit and a lot of people
thought he won that decision then he
went on after that fight got got knocked
out by Yan bovich who became the light
heavyweight champion got knocked out by
Yuri prasa and then just got lit up by
Ryan span and Ryan span is this guy
who's always been Ultra Ultra talented
right but just was always afraid of
running out of gas didn't train didn't
really put in camps just had a lot of
ability and a lot of technique right in
his last fight he fought Dominic Reyes
and he put in a full training camp for
the first time ever and just [ __ ]
Dominic Reyes up just lit him up like a
Christmas tree in the first round and
put him away so you're talking about a
guy who beat you know many people's eyes
should have won a decision against John
Jones right and then Ryan span just
takes him out in the first round easy
quick because he finally worked hard
well there's something about that full
training camp man yes there's something
about going out no phone yes up in the
[ __ ] mountains away from civilization
away from the bacon and eggs the silk
sheets the [ __ ] five star resorts the
[ __ ] everybody knowing you sign
autographs and [ __ ] Dark Matter dude
Dark Matter like a [ __ ] the
further you [ __ ] drive out your house
and start going up in that [ __ ]
Mountain Man you start
to that [ __ ] mind starts to click
over man you get a full Camp up in some
[ __ ] Dark Matter Place yep it's
[ __ ] over bro there's a reason why so
many guys would go up to Big Bear that's
where genady Golovkin used to go up
there can't Brea in that mother Ali used
to go to the Poconos Ali or um Tyson
rather would go to the cat skills a lot
of guys would do that lot of evil up in
them [ __ ] mountains boring cat skills
it's also this nature oh yeah cuz like
nature doesn't give a [ __ ] about you and
there's something you realize when
you're running a mountain and you know
you see Eagles Fly nobody gives a [ __ ]
about you up there no one there's no
press no one's watching that's a
beautiful thing man that's when you
really know who you are yeah when you
get up there there's no like the coach
is probably back a little bit you got
your little run by yourself and [ __ ] you
figure out a lot you figure out a lot
man you start to figure out lot of
[ __ ] problems up there by yourself
yeah so this I don't to answer your
question I don't think there is a
greatest ever because there's different
weight classes you're right khabib
definitely is in the conversation he's
the only like really Elite guy to retire
undefeated that's a nasty [ __ ]
oh he was so good dude dud there's
something about looking at that
[ __ ] like I love these guys who
you can look in their eyes you can tell
something ain't right hard as Nails you
can tell something's [ __ ] right
something ain't right and that's in a
good way
right the way when he fought Conor
McGregor and they were booing him at the
weighs and he goes I'm going to smash
your boy you should play that
interview play that interview because
when I'm talking to him and he they're
all booing and CH it's like they're all
Conor McGregor fans they flew in from
Ireland I mean this is a big fight and
he's like I'm gonna smash your boy
alhamdulillah I'm going to smash your
boy play
this look at them booing
him kib what does this fight mean to you
to defend your title tomorrow it's so
loud there that's why I'm scream it's so
loud first of all I want to say
alhamdulillah God gave me everything
alhamdulillah I know you got this don't
like this alhamdulillah tomorrow night
I'm going to smash your boy guys I'm
going to smash your boy and I want to
say thank you all Irish fans you know
all fans around the world because of you
guys this fight is happened thank you
guys and tomorrow night inshah and still
thank you sir good luck to you the
champion ladies and gentlemen thank you
all tomorrow I'm going to smash your boy
Jesus dud and that's what he did he was
on top of him pounding him going let's
talk now cuz Conor saying theight play
that play that he's on top of him
punching him in the face go let's talk
let's now beating the [ __ ] out of him
that's some Next Level fck now let's
talk now and Conor was like look
at we're talking let let's talk now
let's
talk let's talk
now oh my
God
stop st hey stop stop Conor is saying
it's only business and khabib says you
tired let's
talk Jesus dude he brought that [ __ ] to
another level man yeah well he used that
as fuel he took no [ __ ] mental Aid
stations in the training camp no no no
no he was a bad [ __ ] and then
when his father died he told his mother
he was going to fight one more time and
that's it so he's in his prime still
right now he's in his physical prime and
he's like told his mom he's GNA he's
done he's not coming back you don't
think well his Protege is Islam ma makev
who's now the new UFC lightweight
champion and Islam is as good as him in
that same realm w i mean remains to be
seen whether or not Islam can have a
Reign the way he did but he just beat
Charles Oliva was one of the best ever
and he just ran through him to win the
title that's a bad dude too man ol is a
bad [ __ ] and olera is an
interesting case too because Ola used to
be kind of a quitter yeah I know he kind
of fell apart in many fights early in
his career and then he had the birth of
his daughter and then changed his
[ __ ] entire life changed the way he
fought changed his mentality changed his
his discipline and his focus and then
became this [ __ ] who just
dominating everybody olera I believe
he's 33 see find out with if that's
accurate so are there some are there
some old Fighters right now who are
still kicking
ass yes yam bovich um Glover toer
just lost the light heavyweight title at
42 he won it at 42 and then lost it to
Yuri brovka in a very very close fight
yeah he's 33 olera is 33 you know what's
funny about that man but I see these
older guys who are still [ __ ]
grinding hard people ask about father
time yeah father time doesn't get you
man it's father
fatigue it's father fatigue man like I
see these guys who have been in sports
for a long time fighting or basketball
football whatever it is yeah and it's
that grind
it's that everyday waking up grind it's
not it's it's not father time man it's
it's the fact that you know I got to go
do it again yeah I got to do it again so
a lot of these guys are fighting father
fatigue and they're doing a good job of
doing it I think there's many factors
there's father fatigue there's father
enthusiasm that's right but then there's
also injuries there's you so many of
these guys are fighting with [ __ ] up
backs and [ __ ] up knees and [ __ ] up
elbows and [ __ ] up hands and you don't
know that when you see them because they
look jacked they look ripped right in
their head they know I got to be careful
if I move to the side on my right side
cuz my knee's [ __ ] I know all about
that I got to be careful if I get kicked
in the legs because this is [ __ ] I got
to be yeah and there's a lot of guys
that also been they taking too many
shots and they can't take a punch
anymore right that happens to guys and
then you see they get dinged once and
they get wobbly where so what the [ __ ]
happens with that man I started seeing
guys who [ __ ] been getting hit a lot
yeah they can't take a hit anymore man
like they'll [ __ ] go out quick lot of
speculation and um one of the things
they say is that they believe that at
certain point in time your brain tries
to protect you from the punishment and
just shut off like that your your your
body realizes like this dude is too
strong mentally he's too tough and he'll
just absorb shots and is just ruining
our brain so when you get hit your brain
is like check please wow and your brain
will shut off and then the other that's
a optimistic perspective got it the
other less optimistic perspective is
that you are destroying your mind and
that your mind is simply not resilient
anymore and you can't take a shot
anymore because you've damaged all the
connective tissue that's holding the
[ __ ] brain in place and you've also
created so much CTE and so much swelling
and so that one shot can take you out
there's also on top of that one of the
big problems with MMA is the weight
cutting so the weight cutting is which
what everybody does they they drain
themselves 24 hours before the fight
when in say oh he weighs 170 lbs like
guys like kamaro Usman who's giant for
170 he's 170 for like 20 minutes how
much does he weigh like walking the
street 200 lb 200 lb easy so does he
come back in the ring about 190 200 he's
in the90s for sure yeah lean as [ __ ]
shredded is a [ __ ] but
dehydrated like hell to make 170 there's
he's not ever really 170 wow he's 170 be
like totally sucked up I mean also
cramping you know it's terrible to do
that 24 hours before you have a cage
fight is so crazy [ __ ] up so those
take a toll so if you're 35 37 39 all
these guys that have been doing that
their whole life every time you cut that
weight it takes a little chip off the
old block every time every time it takes
it's another chop into the tree trunk
got it just your foundation and it's
just little minor things every training
camp you go through you know can you do
another one you know your back is [ __ ]
up you get out of bed like this
like it's like little micro injuries
that are constantly piling up you know
we were talking about hickon Gracie
earlier Hixon can can't really even roll
hard anymore he's in the 60s and he's
got these injuries all over his back is
all [ __ ] up it's like all those years
of Jiu-Jitsu that Gracie shit's no joke
though M them [ __ ] that family
they change the world the world this
little 160 lb [ __ ] man this
little [ __ ] can't even see him
under some of these fat [ __ ]
this [ __ ] finger finger [ __ ]
locking you out man [ __ ] get you
in a pinky lock bro like where is he
tapping from why is he tapping I can't
even see you know Gracie got
[ __ ] a pinky
loot this [ __ ] was nasty dude T they
taught the world Jiu-Jitsu the world
didn't know Jiu-Jitsu is the only
martial art that people had ever
experienced that did what was advertised
right what was advertised was that a
small skillful person could beat a
larger stronger opponent who didn't know
the techniques well he proved it he
proved it boy Gracie proved it in the
UFC and he changed martial arts forever
and that that family's probably the most
consequential the most important
significant family in the history of
martial arts the Gracie family changed
martial arts worldwide it's funny man
about you know there's so many people
out here who uh who are very successful
and they talk about I mean Super money
great familyship they talk about that
that they're missing something that
there's something in their life that
they're missing and they and they talk
to me about that [ __ ] and I mentioned
the Gracies it seemed like they they had
this it was about money it was about
nothing man they're like Grassroots
[ __ ] and that's what I always
tell people that they're missing that
they're missing that desire
like those guys had a passion and a
[ __ ] obsess that's the word Obsession
Obsession and I guarantee you man those
[ __ ] don't have those
conversations I feel like I'm missing
something right they're not they're not
missing [ __ ] dude no no they they they
got it figured out man well Hixon in
particular cuz Hixon was Ho's older
brother who was everybody says is the
greatest of all time really from that
era yeah he was there was never been a
time other than today there's a time
right now with Gordon Ryan which is very
rare it's very rare where someone comes
along and everybody says this is the
baddest [ __ ] alive no if ANS or
questions about and back then when Hixon
was in his prime you ask any black belt
anywhere in the world they're like
hixon's the man hixon's the man and he
was a yogi he all this crazy breath work
that he would do he figured out the
physical as well as the mental far
beyond where everybody else was willing
to track travel and there's a great
documentary people are interested in
Hickson Gracie called choke hixon's been
on the podcast a couple of times but
there's a great documentary called choke
that followed him when he was in his
prime in the 1990s competing in Japan
and uh one of the things he does in that
documentary he gets in a frozen glacial
River and he just sits down and he's
meditating In this River up to his neck
of this [ __ ] 30 Dee water just
washing over him and he's just be Talent
bro he's like thank you my Lord thank
you my Lord and he's just like just
taking it all in it's beyond Talent
that's badass there there's so much
involved there's Talent there's
discipline there's the Mind focus and
there's also the Brilliance of his
ability to interpret and understand
technique right there was so many things
that's badass and this is the the case
with Gordon Ryan today who's arguably
the greatest of all time and Gordon is a
lot bigger than everybody that was you
know like Hixon was at his prime was
about 200 lbs Gordon's like 240 and you
know Gordon is utilizing modern training
methods and 365 days a year he trains
doesn't take any days off this is Hixon
in the the Frozen glacial
River that's his brother hoer who's also
one of the greats that that's that
Gracie family man never been a family
like never been a family like it in
martial arts you just have like never
will be Army of killers that's it yeah I
mean look at him snorkel yep that's what
he likes to do is to get under that
water and he does that with a cold
plunge too know what's what's crazy that
so many people would never understand
that kind of discipline or that kind
of that kind of human being that wants
to go to the stratosphere yeah they'll
never they'll always be misunderstood
man always you can't even that's why a
lot of times when I talk to people I
can't I can't have a conversation with a
lot of people man because you're going
to walk away like why do you do it David
why don't you just take a break you
deserve a break David take a nap that's
it did you ever have a piece of
pie why don't you put your feet up why
rest a little you think one day you'll
get fat that's it you should let
yourself get fat dude you're being funny
as [ __ ] B the truest of all [ __ ]
statements oh yeah dude I don't do
nearly as much as you and I get it dude
right I'm like you you would never
understand that's why we'll never talk
yeah you'll never get it so that's why I
don't have conversations with people man
those are brutal conversations with
people that like what I don't understand
what your motivation is what what are
you chasing I haven't been on a podcast
years you insecure where you running
from where you running from David where
you going you know you get there faster
in a car in the car oh I get that a lot
that's the one I get a lot I get that a
lot and and they're joking I'm like and
I don't find this [ __ ] funny like you
[ __ ] man it's so dumb it's dumb
as [ __ ] man but whenever you some
someone who's that wild and that far
beyond where most people are willing to
go you're going to you're going to run
into normies well it's like
[ __ ] go into the circle breaker
man and they go in there and start
rewiring their brain they go in and say
like like like that [ __ ] right
there with the snorkel and [ __ ] yeah oh
no man I got to put this over here yeah
this circuit needs to be there that
needs to be there you're totally
rewiring how the whole brain works to
not to not feel sorry for yourself to
ignore pain to ignore discomfort to push
your place you know to push your mind
place that people don't even [ __ ]
want to talk about they can't fathom and
it's what you talk about with knowledge
yep that's what it is this knowledge
it's understanding of those feelings
that's it and the only way you
understand that those feelings are rare
they don't come up all the time all day
long you wouldn't be able to deal with
them right so most people don't know
what to do with those feelings they're
not around them enough but you're around
them constantly right Hixon was around
them constantly it's like get in those
things then you learn about them you get
a map of the territory that's it you get
a blueprint yeah and the second day
surface when you're [ __ ] getting
choked out I've seen so many see I love
watching fights man cuz I I see them and
I start to see okay you're in a bad
situation man and I see a couple guys
getting ready to [ __ ] tap yeah and
that one second decision I call it
they're thinking man I got to tap it's
like and and and and and you see the
hand motion like I'm about to tap and it
go somewhere else not today [ __ ]
yeah cuz I've been here I've been here
before I can laugh maybe this one more
second and this one second may get me
out of this [ __ ] and I see how the how
the mind is evolving in that one moment
that one quick moment I see that a
million thoughts went through their
[ __ ] mind and it didn't tap I'm going
show you an example of that Brian Ortega
versus Alexander volkanovski Alexander
volkanovski almost gets Tapped Out
volkanovski is the next guy to fight
Islam makev and Islam makev is khabib's
protege that's a bad boy Alexander
volkanovski is the 145 pound champion
he's going up to 155 to try to fight
makev and win the title at that weight
so he fights this guy Brian Ortega who
is a student of hon and Henry Gracie got
it so he's an elite Black Belt and he
gets Brian Ortega gets vulcanos in this
Guillotine choke mounted Guillotine
choke which is the nastiest [ __ ] ever
and this guy is a [ __ ] strangulation
expert and V Kowski is stuck give me
some volume give me some volume here oh
my
goodness he might go to sleep here's his
mind the is and he got out see and he
got out he was so close you hear
Paul Paul Felder saying he might go to
sleep so he almost catches him here now
in a
Dar and volovski winds up on top he gets
on top he just starts Hammer hammering
them I mean this fight is one of the
best examples you want to watch this
fight you want to talk about Will and
Warrior spirit this is one of the best
fights ever for both guys cuz Orga like
going into the fourth round you're like
how is this [ __ ] surviving and
then he comes out in the fifth round
guns guns blazing see Bol these guys
just drained the [ __ ] gas tank in
this fight it was an amazing amazing
amazing fight now what he should have
did after that he should have gone home
and wrote that [ __ ] out cuz in that
moment if he could even think about it
the knowledge he gained in that moment
Priceless where what was happening when
you almost tapped what was and I'm not
talking about this surface conversation
that's beautiful to me that I I study
that [ __ ] so much you were in a horrible
situation I know you were like I gotta
tap I got to tap I gotta tap but if you
break that down really break it down to
the smallest molecule possible your mind
went through so so many things that
allowed you to not tap you got to study
that man that right there is so much
that's that's beautiful yeah that's that
that's Beauty right there at work Beauty
at work it is because for that man I
mean vulcanos he walked out of there
with his [ __ ] belt with the victory
the cheers the Roars The Crowd Goes back
home he [ __ ] did it it's amazing but
he almost didn't I see he got to the
door of death see it's that one second
decision that one second decision I talk
about this [ __ ] right here you
get there and you want to quit and you
don't yeah and you end up [ __ ]
getting through it man well that's the
thing is like your book can give people
if even if they don't get a map of the
territory they're getting directions
right you want to go to I95 go about 10
miles down when you see Woodland Hills
Road take a right you're giving them
you're mind not be giving them a map cuz
I think the map has to be acquired
personally 100% well you're giving them
Direction that's it you're saying this
is how I got through this is how I
developed my map MH people want to hand
it to me I can't hand it to you you
can't but you can give them something
and I when I texted you I was in the
middle of the book I was like I can run
through a [ __ ] wall right now cuz
that's what it feels like I love that
there's something about the way you
describe things and the way you're so
honest and so personal about
it especially the audio version of it
and then when you do the podcast so the
way the audio the audio is a special
treat because it's the book and then
with each individual chapter you have a
small podcast where you and your
co-writer break down what what what it
was like for you and what was happening
and and what what you were feeling and
what you and it allows you to do it in
an unscripted way so you could really
and you're so honest about it it just it
just gives you an understanding of that
you this discomfort is UN avoidable
right and then trying to avoid
discomfort just brings you more
discomfort and you don't realize it it
just brings you this longterm dull
discomfort as opposed to the Searing
pain of like mid struggle discomfort
which is what everybody's trying to
avoid but you're still going to get
discomfort you're just going to get this
I could have should have would have been
discomfort which is maybe worse you're
right it might be worse it just makes it
a little easier that's all that's all
the repetitions do man it's not it
doesn't take away the pain doesn't take
away the suffering no you just studied
it you know it you know how it feels
yeah you know when to breathe when not
to breathe you know all these different
things you've been there you visited
you've you you've lived there for a long
period of time and that's why I like
this book so much is because can't hurt
me was like a bachelor's degree it was
like the surface level of David gogins
and some things that can help you out
this to me is a master's degree this
book right here takes you to another
level of of the mind and how you think
that's why I say this ain't no [ __ ]
self-help book this is what the [ __ ] are
you doing with your life book yeah and
that's why that's so important what are
you doing with your life man why are you
sitting around why are you waiting for
[ __ ] to happen it ain't going to happen
like that why are you feeling sorry for
yourself why you waiting for that
[ __ ] apology that's never going to
[ __ ] come people sit around waiting
and waiting and waiting and waiting and
blaming and blaming and they're waiting
with a hand out yeah Co happened and
everybody's hands out now hands out and
you see how it changed sort of the tone
of the country it did and it made people
feel entitled like someone deserve they
deserve something yep that's right you
don't deserve [ __ ] you don't deserve
[ __ ] and that's the one thing that I
knew and I found out the worst part if
they give you [ __ ] you're going to be
even more miserable oh that's a true
statement isn't it a true statement a
true statement everybody wants the
government to come along and help them
that's true statement someone to come
along and give you things I should get
things you should redistribute wealth
you're not going to be happy NOP you're
not you got to go get it no you're
you're going to always wonder W I have
all this [ __ ]
money why do I feel like I said I feel
like I'm missing something right because
you didn't go out and achieve it on your
own it's like a man who inherited money
that's it they're always missing
something big time there's something
wrong with them someone gift wrapped you
some [ __ ] yeah and now you're just a
[ __ ] now you're like a half a man
that's it you look like a man but you're
like one of them Easter Bunny candy
things you know those those chocolate
Easter Bunnies that's it you like you
try to bite into it your [ __ ] sh has to
[ __ ] them shits up now three hundo yeah
well I loved them when they were solid
when you got a solid one oh look at a
Sol lot more calories lot more snacks in
that [ __ ] yeah that's a solid Easter
Bunny but when you bite into one it just
just destroy a [ __ ] up your teeth [ __ ]
this is a [ __ ] Hollow one yes sir
yeah a lot of people are Hollow Easter
Bunnies a lot of people are hollow
inside too yeah but you don't have to be
no this is the beautiful thing of your
story is that you started out [ __ ] up
and sad and couldn't do anything and you
transformed yourself so people don't
think like this guy's just always been
hard from the cradle to bra like you you
you turned yourself into this which is
the real that's the that's the story
that gives people hope you can truly
develop otherworldly discipline right
it's possible to develop other worldly
mental strength well we change
everything we change our car we change
our house sometimes we change our wife
or husband we change the underwear we
change everything in our lives change
our hair change how we look change
everything but very few of us change how
we think and that's the one problem with
with a lot of people they're not willing
to change how they think you're not
going to evolve if you continue thinking
the same [ __ ] way so a lot of people
have a problem with that so I'm always
trying to evolve in some way I'm never
wearing the same underwear every day
always changing that
[ __ ] never finished it's out right now
ladies and gentlemen I can't recommend
it enough it's a [ __ ] fantastic book
as good if not better than can hurt me
you're the man brother appreciate you
very much thank you Joe all right bye
everybody
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